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SteveS8 (New York)
Posts: 128
Posted:
We are in a community that is still being built.

The sponsor has a majority of the board. Talk of a Transition Committee has been raised by the homeowners, and the builder keeps suggesting it is too early (the community is about 75% sold out and it may be another two years before it is totally sold out).

Additionally, when pushed about the committee, the builder tells us that the sitting board is the best qualified to serve on a Transition Committee when the time is right. The homeowners feel that such a committee would only look out for the builder's interests since the majority of votes are his, and our resident-elected board members have no background in legal or financial matters.

We were even told that the management company would be the best choice to lead this Transition Committee because "We will need to rely on them to obtain the required skills (engineering, maintenance, repair, budgets, etc) when they are required."

The problem the homeowners see is that the management company that our builder hired to run our community is the same one the builder hires to run all of his communities, and the two appear to be tied at the hip, so we are not terribly confident that the homeowners' interests will be part of the equation in any of the above scenarios.

As best I can determine, our Offering Plan does not mention Transition at all.

So, my question is... what power do the homeowners have to choose their own representatives for the Transition Committee, and what powers do we have to refuse the builder's desire to have the current board and management company run such a committee?

Thanks!!
Steve
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
The developer is still in charge, and will transition it whenever and however he likes. Once you are in charge, you will have a say on which management company you use. Until then, you dont really have a say.
SteveS8 (New York)
Posts: 128
Posted:
Thanks, Steve.
I can understand why we may not have a say in the day to day affairs of the community, but a Transition Committee seems to cover a grey area which takes us from control by the builder to control by the homeowners.

In that process, we have to determine if the builder still has work to do to shore up and complete the community before he is gone.

Why would the builder not just hire lackies who will say that everything is fine and dandy and he can leave without doing anything?

What recourse do homeowners have if they do not get a say in that process?

Steve
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
My HOA (and I am on the Declarant appointed BOD) is getting close to doing a transition. I say close as our docs call for it to happen within one year of a specific amount of homes being sold so we expect the one year countdown/notice to begin within a month or so.

Now the questions become who trusts whom and who pays for what?

We have a very open, honest, candid, we have annual financial reports, etc. relationship with the declarant and we have agreed to seek an independent, experienced HOA attorney to assist/aid/protect us in the turnover. Even after the transition (at 85% omes sold) the declarant still has homes left to sell so it is not like he will be gone, thus this plays a role.

We are also discussing our need for a management company (our declarant does the property management functions) versus being self managed but I see the transition and the need for a management company as two different issues and we are treating them as such.

Bottom line is as an owner, I want legal representation for we owners to be sure all is what it is regardless of how "cozy" our relationship is with the declarant and the less "cozy" the relationship is, the more I want legal representation.

Trust, but verify.

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
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Posted By SteveS8 on 10/19/2012 8:39 AM
I can understand why we may not have a say in the day to day affairs of the community, but a Transition Committee seems to cover a grey area which takes us from control by the builder to control by the homeowners.

In that process, we have to determine if the builder still has work to do to shore up and complete the community before he is gone.

Why would the builder not just hire lackies who will say that everything is fine and dandy and he can leave without doing anything?

What recourse do homeowners have if they do not get a say in that process?

Steve

Steve,

There is no reason why you and other concerned homeowners cannot form some sort of ad hoc committee to start looking into things now.

For example, examine whatever structures and infrastucture that the builder will turn over when he leaves. If you see problems or defects, bring it to his attention and request repair before he folds his tents although I would caution you to seek legal advice before doing so as such a request could start the statute of limitations clock ticking. If you can, take an inventory of personal property that you expect the builder to turn over when he goes.

Even if the builder is not all that cooperative, the owners can start planning now for the day he leaves.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Transition information should be in the Covenants not the Offering Plan, usually after X% of homes are sold or within X number of years after the first lot is sold, whichever comes first. In addition to Larry's excellent advice, you should determine if the city or county is holding any construction bonds on the project. Usually the Zoning Board will require the developer to post the bonds to insure the work is completed, they are then released either as certain elements are completed or when the project is done. If there are construction problems homeowners can often block their release until the work is up to code. You also have your construction warranty which is usually two years which is why Larry's advice of not tripping the clock early is also valuable.

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