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RalphH2 (Arizona)
Posts: 12
Posted:
While I understand the Board of Directors can make or create Policys without membership approval as a guide to handle situations. I am perplexed with a Policy that "shoots themselves in the foot".

Our HOA represents about 2,500 homeowners. The Directors we supported and elected to represent us, at times in the past would communicate via email their individual thoughts about certain issues or proposals they were dealing with at the time. They might have asked their known supporters to provide a response or opinion to get an idea of how the community was thinking and help on which way to vote.

Recently our Board passed unanimously a new Policy "Code of Conduct for Board Directors". Provisions include:

"As a Board member I may discuss an initiative under consideration with a resident, but should not take a public position for or against proposals scheduled to be presented by a committee to the Board for consideration."

"Once the Board of Directors has taken a position on a matter at a Board Meeting, I will support the Board’s position."

Does anyone know of any other HOA with such a policy to suppress their own freedom of free speech?? They communicated with membership to get elected describing what their positions were on then current proposals or what they might be on future proposals if they got elected. Now they should not talk to the very people that elected them?

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Ralph,

The current AZ HOA open meeting statute closely mirrors the statute for open meetings for public bodies.

I recall reading an Attorney General opinion for the public agency open meeting statute wherein the AG stated that the intent is that all decisions be made at the public meeting and after public discussion. The intent was that members not make a decision in private.

There is a later opinion dealing with emails between board members. While not right on topic, you may find it of interest. You can read it at http://www.azag.gov/opinions/2005/I05-004.pdf

Also available online is a 67-page booklet regarding the Arizona Open Meeting Law produced by the state's Ombudsman's office. It is at http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ombudsman/Open_Meeting_Book.pdf Again, I suggest studying these resources because the HOA open meeting statute is patterned on the state's Open Meeting Law.

Your board's policy to allow board members to accept input via email from homeowners but not to take a position is consistent with the AG's opinion for public bodies. I think it is a realistic way to take input from owners while maintaining a neutral position on an issue until a full discussion at an open meeting.

The other issue you raised is the provision that the board members will all sing the same tune. This is like saying that once Congress approved Obamacare, for example, that no Congressmen may speak in opposition to it. Just how do they propose to enforce this?
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Ralph

You say, they said:

"As a Board member I may discuss an initiative under consideration with a resident, but should not take a public position for or against proposals scheduled to be presented by a committee to the Board for consideration."

"Once the Board of Directors has taken a position on a matter at a Board Meeting, I will support the Board’s position."


Personally I think those are very professional suggestions. The first does not stop anyone from discussing any issue. It just says keep in mind you do not speak for the BOD. Many will think your attitudes/beliefs are those of the BOD when they are yours alone. That has to be made clear when you speak to people about the issues.

I say once a BOD has agreed on a course of action then everyone on the BOD should be working toward achieving/implementing the solution for the greater good of the association. Afterall the majority agreed to do it. What is the disennter(s) to do, fight it, try and stop it?

I do not see either suggestion (and that is all they are) as interferring with your right of free speach. I see simply as building an effective management team.

RalphH1 (Arizona)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Thank you for your feedback.
RalphH1 (Arizona)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Thank you for your feedback.
JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
While we don't have a written policy regarding these issues sounds to me like a good plan to both gather opinions from the membership without having one indiviual Board member speaking for the Board and having their opinion then viewed as how the entire Board feels.

Over the years I too have suggested it was far better to have support from the entire Board on issues rather than having infighting which in the end accomplished nothing. Once a decision is made as John points out I would rather see the Board as a whole work to act in the best interests of the property. Now as to the Obamacare suggestion perhaps if the the folks in Washington spent more time doing what's best the the country and the American people rather then finding fault with the actions of the other side we might be farther along. As John suggested why spend time fighting over issues that have been settled? And IMO if you find yourself constantly in conflict with the views of the Board majority perhaps you might consider the possibility the problem is with you.

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Just how do you go about enforcing this policy of supporting the board? The board usually cannot remove a board member who was elected by the members. About all you can do is ask for the board member's support and if you don't get it then make in sit under the air conditioner at the next meeting.

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