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BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
Posted:
Our President keeps asking me If I have gotten a check for the lawyer's retaining fee of $500.00. The lawyer was at our September Board meeting and I asked him if he was going to ssend us a bill so that I can give it to the bookkeeper. (Although not the treasurer) I do assist by making bank deposits and getting checks from the bookkeeper.

Oour President thinks a retaining fee is not a bill and all I have to ask the bookkeepeer to do is generate a check for $500.00. I disagree with her. I don't like to generage a check for anything that does not have a bill to go with it.

Who do you think is correct me or our President?

Thanks for your help.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Bonnie,

I am with you on this. The lawyer should tender some sort of fee agreement so that everyone knows what this $500 is paying for. In the past whenever I have retained an attorney there has always been some sort of written statement as to what the fee covers.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Bonnie,

We pay our attorney a small fee for being our registered agent.
If we need legal services we are billed for the hours.

We do not keep any attorney on retainer.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Bonnie

I say any payment requires a bill/statement.

I also would ask why you need an attorney on retainer. What does it buy/save you?

Thanks
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
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Who do you think is correct me or our President?


No bill, no check. The lawyer needs to send you a bill if he wants your money.
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
Posted:
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Posted By JohnC46 on 10/14/2012 7:38 AM
Bonnie

I say any payment requires a bill/statement.

I also would ask why you need an attorney on retainer. What does it buy/save you?

Thanks

We are negotiating a contract with our current maintenance/housekeeping provider. He said he will use the $500.00 for the word he does on this for us. He said he would send us statements letting us know what he has done and how much of the $ was used for each job.
ElizabethA2 (North Carolina)
Posts: 7
Posted:
I also say, "no bill, no check". Wouldn't it be more efficient to use your lawyer on a case to case basis as needed?
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
Posted:
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Posted By ElizabethA2 on 10/19/2012 4:42 AM
I also say, "no bill, no check". Wouldn't it be more efficient to use your lawyer on a case to case basis as needed?

Basically that is what we will be doing. The retaining fee is just to get him started.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Bonnie

Negotiating a contract is simply a business deal meaning what are you going to do for me and for how much are you going to charge me. A lawyer is far from the first person needed to do that part especially if renegotiating an existing contract for better terms and/or cost.

Now once deal is agreed upon, having as lwayer look at it might not be a bad idea.

Hope this helps.
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
Posted:
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Posted By JohnC46 on 10/19/2012 5:42 PM
Bonnie

Negotiating a contract is simply a business deal meaning what are you going to do for me and for how much are you going to charge me. A lawyer is far from the first person needed to do that part especially if renegotiating an existing contract for better terms and/or cost.

Now once deal is agreed upon, having as lwayer look at it might not be a bad idea.

Hope this helps.

We have reviewed a contract and want to use the lawyer with some help with changes we want to make to the contract.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
After the experience we had with our first BOD, I will never criticize anyone for seeking legal review of a contract.

We have about 300 miles of dirt roads to maintain. When the developer turned things over to the owners, our board found a contractor to do the grading. The contractor and our board negotiated a contract all by themselves even though no one on the board had ever negotiated a business contract in their lives. Dispite the fact that the resulting "contract" was five pages, in essence it said if the association asked the contractor to grade the roads then he would do so at a set fee per mile.

The contract was just a pricing agreement and it covered five years worth of work. Our board then interpretted this document to mean that we had a binding 5-year contract with the grading contractor, even though he had no authority to do any work without a specific request from the association. The "contract" was just an agreement to make contracts in the future. The contract did not unconditionally obligate the contractor to do any work nor did it unconditionally obligate the association to pay the contractor.

When the relationship soured later on, the board kept on hiring this contractor in the belief that they had no other choice. The contractor had plenty of other clients and gave us the cold shoulder. Our roads were not graded but the board sought no other contractors in the belief that they were bound to the first one. It took four years for the board to figure out that the contractor had taken a powder and I do not think anyone on the board ever figured out what was wrong with their contract.

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