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ElizabethA2 (North Carolina)
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Anyone encountering a resident who is a member of a homeowners association who is managing a personal blog which occasionlly posts items critical to the BOD? Our HOA is threatening legal action to require that resident to stop.....can the Board do that?
NancyG3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 342
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The Board can do whatever it wants to do. Wish we had someone in our community that would do this. We have a newsletter written by the Pres wife who always is writing untruths about homeowners. No rebuttal is allowed. As I see it, it would work both ways in our community. Tell the Board to ignore it. Intelligent homeowners know the difference. Also, depends on what the homeowner is writing, I hope they are not using names. Big libal suit against them if they are. Unfortunately, this is one of the things Board members have to put up with. Why spend Assn money on suing this individual and for what. Hope this helps.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Elizabeth,

If the blog gives the impression that it is the word of the Association, then this is an issue that needs to be dealt with.

If the blog is defaming individuals, then the individual defamed should consult an attorney for possible legal remedies.

Typically, if the blog is just voicing an opinion, the Association really can't do anything but threaten. Of course threats can cost the other individual (and the Association) money if the threats are made through legal counsel.

If your the author of the blog, you need to take steps to make sure that what you blog is factual. Typically it's best to provide links or references that allow the reader to independently verify what is being said. This will minimize issues for the blogger plus provide credibility. The blogger shouldn't embellish anything that is being posted (let the facts speak for themselves) The blogger should also specify that they are not the official word of the Association. Perhaps providing a link to the official website (if one exists).

Hope this helps,

Tim
JM10 (California)
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Posted By ElizabethA2 on 10/10/2012 7:31 AM
Anyone encountering a resident who is a member of a homeowners association who is managing a personal blog which occasionlly posts items critical to the BOD? Our HOA is threatening legal action to require that resident to stop.....can the Board do that?

That sounds like something I would do.

First, you have to be able to separate opinion from libel. Being critical is part of freedom of speech. If the statements are false, which is not what you state, then the HOA could possibly sue for libel.

The HOA may be on unsteady ground here, but it depends upon what is being written and the reason behind the resident's action. For instance, if the BOD is supposed to allow equal access to newsletter and other media as provided in the State of California's Davis-Stirling Act for the purpose of elections and other matters that require a vote or the public voicing of opinion, a judge is likely to see that the resident had little or no recourse.

Second, the directors as elected officials are considered public figures. For this reason, the burden of proof is higher. The HOA would have to prove actual malice--so not only knowledge that the statements are false, but also that the statements are being published with a sense of recklessness.

A HOA should have an open forum where lively discussions can take place. In the case of the HOA that I was under, the board disregarded the law and attempted to squelch any dissenting voices. That's not democracy; that's like a fascist state. This was a winning argument in small claims court when we took our HOA to court for release of documents and a reversal of the judge's original decision.
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
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Criticism of a board of directors doesn't like rise to the level of defamation. I wouldn't worry too much about it and would, at least, be oddly receptive to the notion that this person cares enough to waste time writing about their HOA on a personal blog - no one else in the world cares. Offer them a chance to run for office.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
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Posted By ElizabethA2 on 10/10/2012 7:31 AM
Anyone encountering a resident who is a member of a homeowners association who is managing a personal blog which occasionlly posts items critical to the BOD? Our HOA is threatening legal action to require that resident to stop.....can the Board do that?

They can sue but they are not likely to win.

The ruling case on criticizing officials is New York Times Co. V. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, 270 (1964). Contained within that opinion is the following passage:

"Those who won our independence believed . . . that public discussion is a political duty; and that this should be a fundamental principle of the American government. They recognized the risks to which all human institutions are subject. But they knew that order cannot be secured merely through fear of punishment for its infraction; that it is hazardous to discourage thought, hope and imagination; that fear breeds repression; that repression breeds hate; that hate menaces stable government; that the path of safety lies in the opportunity to discuss freely supposed grievances and proposed remedies; and that the fitting remedy for evil counsels is good ones. Believing in the power of reason as applied through public discussion, they eschewed silence coerced by law - the argument of force in its worst form. Recognizing the occasional tyrannies of governing majorities, they amended the Constitution so that free speech and assembly should be guaranteed."
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
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In a nutshell, if you can't handle criticism as an HOA director, you should resign your office. People will always be second-guessing your decisions.
ElizabethA2 (North Carolina)
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Thanks for the response! My sentiments exactly ...If they can't stand the heat....Get out of the kitchen...if they're doing things correctly, they shouldn't have any problems.....
ElizabethA2 (North Carolina)
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Thanks for the feed back!
ElizabethA2 (North Carolina)
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This is great help! Thanks for your feedback!
JonD1
Posts: 2,350
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With such little information tough determine what "critical" means in terms of the content of this blog. Now certainly the member can run a blog and express their views. But just as sure the Board has the right to hire an attorney, sue the person who set up and administers the blog and force them to retain a lawyer and fight this action in court.

A blog does not insulate you from legal action and win lose or draw there will be cost to your defense. And "IF" the critical comments do in fact cross the line as far as what is permitted under the law then you might suffer further financial consequences.

As a general rule most people don't like to be attacked or have their actions questioned and at some point they just might fire back. When the papers are served on you it will be determined who in fact is in the right and who acted in a reasonable manner.

There are always at least 2 sides to any situation and most times both sides see themselves as in the right. Once you end up in court you can determine if your cause was just, right and in the end worth the cost.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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Sueing/stopping a blog because of libel, etc. is extremely difficult and can rarley be proven/done.

What I have seen done is stopping one that looked/sounded like the "official association blog. Like Smith Valley Home Owners Association verus Smith Valley Owners Association. Sites that the first page looks like the "official" site first page.

If it is one or just a few people doing blogging, then ignore them. Never mention, acknowlege them. When questionned...reply....well you know there is at least one in every crowd ...well you know we all have a family member we are not proud of.

Now when there are more posting negative posts on the blog site then posting positive on the official website, it might be time to pay attention to the blog.

Hope this helps.

KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
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An HOA board that would use its dues payers' fund to legally threaten a blogger should be tossed from office at the earliest opportune moment for mismanagement of resources. That energy can be directed towards property management tasks.

A bunch of armchair quarterback board members might it's a good idea to "serve papers." That would be about the extent of it. The ONLY reason they'd hire an attorney is because they aren't spending their own money; the cash is from someone else.
ElizabethA2 (North Carolina)
Posts: 7
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Thank you for this response!

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