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LauraW4 (Colorado)
Posts: 16
Posted:
10/08/2012 6:35 PM Quote Reply
We have a somewhat similar situation- a homeowner asked to enlarge his deck - he submitted drawings and materials and a scaled drawing of deck on lot all requirements of design review- According to our CRRs the only requirement for decks is that they be attched to the home, be of the same color or a natural stain as the home. The majority of the Arch Committee signed off on this as there was no reason to deny it. This was all documented in a letter to all Board members, management company and ARC members, and a copy given to the homeowner- There are 8 like structures in our neighborhood. The president of the Board , who was a member of the Arch Committee, didn't like it- who knows why? She called the ARC Chair and demanded that a meeting to again discuss the issue be called- he referred her to the ARC Charter that states the majority opinion will carry the decision, no grounds to disapprove the deck- again a letter stating the reasons why it was approved per CRRs-she then claimed it would be too close to property line- the deck will be 12 1/2 feet from property line- many decks including the BOD Pres is closer than his 12 1/2 foot set back-since our City municipal code states there is a 5 root side easement- he is in compliance with that too- she has since called a special board meeting removing everyone but herself from the ARC committee and appointed a new one- which she can do according to policy-and wants to hold up this particular request to review it again. Our management company has told her that the Board can not over rule a signed DRR from a homeowner after the fact, yet she is still trying to renig on this matter- since this is all documented with letters, citations of CRRs, and her emails, and the management company emails- do we then send it to the HOAs lawyer or get one ourselves??

TimB4
(Virginia)

Posts:4627

10/08/2012 10:57 PM Quote Reply
Posted By LauraW4 on 10/08/2012 10:36 AM
We have a somewhat similar situation- ... Our management company has told her that the Board can not over rule a signed DRR from a homeowner after the fact, yet she is still trying to renig on this matter- since this is all documented with letters, citations of CRRs, and her emails, and the management company emails- do we then send it to the HOAs lawyer or get one ourselves??

Laura,

Welcome to the forum. Typically it's best to start a new topic rather than reactivate an older thread even if the situation is similar. This way, all the advice received will be directed at your issue and not at the previous issue (which can cause confusion).

That said,

Has the deck been built? If not, the homeowner should probably built it quickly.

Any communications between the homeowner and the Association should be in writing (no verbal discussions should take place as it is clear documentation may be needed).

The homeowner should request copies of all minutes of meetings from the point the deck was requested forward.

The homeowner should consult with an attorney so they are prepared if the Association chooses to take legal action.

It sounds like the Board doesn't want to stand up to this individual even though they have been informed by the management company and the previous committee that the deck plans are in compliance. Shame on them. Unfortunately this does happen and it may cost the membership in legal fees if the Board allows this issue to continue the way you describe it.

LawrenceC1 (Georgia)
Posts: 480
Posted:
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Has the deck been built? If not, the homeowner should probably built it quickly.


I agree with Tim here. Build the deck and put the onus on the HOA to either bring a frivolous lawsuit or give up this nonsense.

It's highly unlikely that one hothead would be able to convince others on the board to spend real money pursuing an unwinnable case.

Too often people serving on the Architectural Control Committee think that they can approve or disapprove construction based n personal preferences or subjective judgement. Even when "aesthetic merit" is a recognized criteria, withholding approval always has to be with a clear, explicable, and rational explanation.
LauraW4 (Colorado)
Posts: 16
Posted:
I totally agree and this is why the ARC has , for the past 4 years, responded with chapter and verse of why or why not something can or can not be approved- we had taken any personal opinion out of it as there had been abuses of the system before and applied the CRRs evenly across the board. This President was always one who was especially careful to not show any bias- thats why now it is crazy! She let a friend of hers build a patio without design review or permits in the incorrect place and without an engineering report- all needed per covenants and municipal code- the ARC told them to get the reports but realized moving the patio would be a "hardship" CRR language- so let it stay. ARC also told them since they changed the drainage and grade of the lot they will be responsible for any water damage to other structures/properties. They went to the Board and whined and the Board, led by this woman, backed down and said ok - you dont need one and no one will hold you responsible. Seriously? Told the BOD that it is municipal code to do all this and they can't negate city law. No one listened . Now the deck guy lives next to one of her friends and they do not want him to build his deck- why? I have no idea. But as I said before he met all criteria, submitted his request, and was approved- and we have emails from the Board president saying he is a pain and we can hold up his request and we can find some way to deny it- it is too much! I am just worried that they are taking over in a very bad way and setting us all up for a law suit. If I were deck guy- I would certainly sue.

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