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ChristinaA (Arizona)
Posts: 2
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Our Hoa is self appointed,We have not had a meeting a official meeting since Dec.2011. The board changes the assessment by buddy system.Refuse to let you see any paper work.and gives passes to their buddy's on paying their monthy dues. We are told (they are good for it). Between them they have the majority,Help ,is there any where to go for help,other than selling your property?
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
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Posted By ChristinaA on 10/04/2012 7:58 PM
Our Hoa is self appointed,We have not had a meeting a official meeting since Dec.2011. The board changes the assessment by buddy system.Refuse to let you see any paper work.and gives passes to their buddy's on paying their monthy dues. We are told (they are good for it). Between them they have the majority,Help ,is there any where to go for help,other than selling your property?

Christina,

Is your association a condo or stand-alone homes? Is the developer still in control of the association? How large is your association?

If the developer is still in control of the association, they do not have to inform you when the board meets but if you somehow learn of a board meeting they must let you in.

Whether the developer is in control or not, the books must always be made available upon request.

The CC&R's normally say who must pay assessments and usually gives an intitial assessment rate. The board has no authority to modify the CC&R's or waive payment unless that power is granted in the declaration.

The Arizona Revised Statutes are available on line at http://www.azleg.gov/ArizonaRevisedStatutes.asp

HOA's are governed by ARS 33-1801 thru 33-1817 and condos by ARS 33-1201 thru 33-1270. In addition, if your association is incorporated as a non-profit it must comply with ARS 10-3101 thru 10-11635.

Unfortunately, owners in Arizona are pretty much on their own if they wish to assert their rights either under the law or under their declaration. ARS 33-1803 makes a reference to filing a complaint with the department of fire, building and life safety "if the dispute is within the jurisdiction of" that agency. The problem is that the state Supreme Court ruled several years that the department of fire, building and life safety has no jurisdiction. If you want to assert your rights you will have to retain an attorney and seek relief in the courts.

ChristinaA (Arizona)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Out of the four board members,only 1 lives here ,1 his mother lives here and he is not on the deed,The other 2 are buying the property on walk aways. They are selling them as Patio homes,rentals,our CCR's say no rentals. I am speaking for several owners,I am handicapped and can no longer use my front porch railing because it has rotted thru, it is part of the common area I have tried to fix it on my own. Hoa says they will fix it if I give them more money.They only fix their properties on assoc. monies. Do you think in the state of Arizona, I should take it Federal? Fair Housing?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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Where else does the money comes from in a HOA? It comes from the members. That means the HOA has to have the money in their budget to pay for your repairs. Sounds like they are willing to fix it but may not have the funds to do so. However, that means they must assess ALL the owners equally to cover the costs of project. Unless there are other factors here.

Maybe not seeing the forrest for the trees here? A HOA can NOT really restrict rental legally. Only state that can do that is possibly California. That is just come into play in the last year. A HOA can't interfere with the contract of an owner and tenant.

We can always find issues or favoritism when we don't get what we want....

Former HOA President
EricH8 (Virginia)
Posts: 116
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Posted By MelissaP1: We can always find issues or favoritism when we don't get what we want....
Well good for us.
RobertF11 (Florida)
Posts: 41
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Take the action to court. If a person receives a summons from a sheriff, it tends to open their eyes a bit. If you don't believe me goto http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/GetCaseInformation.asp?submitted=true&viewtype=caseGeneral&casemasterID=292819&db=Canadian this is my case I have filed in court. Read my affidavit to see my points and what actions I am taking against my hoa in court. Just to let you know, a week after the hoa president received my summons, which was served to her by the sheriff, the hoa disbanded. Please read my affidavit closely. It is a very lengthy affidavit, however in a lawsuit, you must state everything you want done in detail.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I think RobertF11 is full of Spam...

Former HOA President
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Melissa,

I thought that at first as well. Then I looked at his past posts and read some, not all, of the court filing he provided.

It sounds like his Association is still under declarant control (but I could be wrong) and we have numerous threads on this site where this can cause problems and/or misunderstandings. Reading the compliant it also sounds like some, not all, of the issues just escalated into nonsense (perhaps a bit on both sides). However, Robert is the one being directly affected and I am not. Perhaps if I was being affected by the things Robert describes, I would have a similar perspective.

Robert,

I wish you luck as nobody knows how a court will rule until it does.

Tim

JM10 (California)
Posts: 503
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Posted By ChristinaA on 10/04/2012 10:09 PM
Out of the four board members,only 1 lives here ,1 his mother lives here and he is not on the deed,The other 2 are buying the property on walk aways. They are selling them as Patio homes,rentals,our CCR's say no rentals. I am speaking for several owners,I am handicapped and can no longer use my front porch railing because it has rotted thru, it is part of the common area I have tried to fix it on my own. Hoa says they will fix it if I give them more money.They only fix their properties on assoc. monies. Do you think in the state of Arizona, I should take it Federal? Fair Housing?

You can only take it to Fair Housing if you can prove discrimination based on being disabled or a member of a protected minority group. If it's personal, that won't work.

First you should make a written request for documents and deliver that request per the CC&R and/or state requirements. Look at the time limit for the production of documents. All members should have the right to see the financial records. In your request, you should cite the state and CC&R requirements (code and rule) as well as the time limit to produce.

When the board fails to meet that time limit, then you should go to small claims court.

If they are not receiving all the assessments, that should be obvious in the financial documents.

In addition, you should ask for meeting minutes which should indicate what was approved as an expense. Look and see how the other properties and what was fixed and the cost. Also look at the time between the request and the action. This will help you build your case. Get an estimate for the cost to repair.

Regarding the repair you want, do you have this request for more money documented in writing? If not get that in writing. Also find the CC&R that indicates the front porch railing is exclusive use common area and make the request again.

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
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Posted By JM10 on 10/08/2012 2:49 AM

First you should make a written request for documents and deliver that request per the CC&R and/or state requirements. Look at the time limit for the production of documents. All members should have the right to see the financial records. In your request, you should cite the state and CC&R requirements (code and rule) as well as the time limit to produce.

When the board fails to meet that time limit, then you should go to small claims court.

In Arizona, neither Justice Courts nor their Small Claims divisions have jurisdiction to issue an injunction to require production of documents. The homeowner has to go to Superior Court to seek that relief.

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