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ToniW (North Carolina)
Posts: 28
Posted:
I am president of a 40 unit townhome community in NC. We've been using the same landscaper for about 5 years now. He has proven to be reliable and very conscientious regarding his work, with a fair price that has never increased. In addition, he's performed out of scope work many many times without billing us. A number of times, I had to insist that he bill us and he does. Other than a few instances of things getting scratched or broken, there has been little complaint regarding his services (that I am aware of at least). I trust him to do what he says he will do and there have never been hassles working with his company.

One of our Board members owns 20 of the 40 units. At our last board meeting, she submitted a quote from her son's landscaping company and wants us to consider him. My biggest concern is that this is a conflict of interest as her son is also part of the LLC that owns the 20 properties and I stated as much. Her argument is that because he has a vested interest he would do a quality job. HIs price is $500/year higher than our current price and includes things that are usually considered add-ons (clearing parking lots from snow, seeding, pressure washing)

I don't see that as being automatically true, esp. given that they hold 50% of the member votes - the perception very well could be that Board member's get preferential treatment that benefit them financially, or that he could focus on his own properties at the expense of others, or even that there is no recourse to fire his company if he fails to meet our expectations.

This was not a scheduled topic for discussion and was just brought up as 'new business' There were mixed reactions among the other board members. The discussion was tabled for later because the bid was not blind, he knew what we currently get and pay and based his contract offer on that. Nor has the need to change vendors been previously discussed. We agreed to require a blind bid and get at least three including an updated one from our current landscaper.

I've read our bylaws and CCRs and could not find any language prohibiting Owners or Board member's family members from being contractors. I just have a very uneasy feeling about this and setting a precedent allowing it to happen.

Has anyone dealt with this before and are there any legal requirements regarding hiring family members?

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
If this is a board decision, it's one vote per Director and how many lots are owned by this individual is irrelevant (except that they may have to votes to recall the board to get their way).

I expect that you have a contract with your current contractor. Therefore, you can't consider other offers until the contract ends.

If the members son wants to bid, fine.
Consider it.

You should also insist on a blind bid so the relation doesn't have access. Not because you suspect cheating but to minimize the appearance of impropriety.

When it comes time to vote on the issue, insist that the relative remove themselves from the vote as there is a conflict of interest (and to minimize the appearance of impropriety).

Then consider all offers fairly. If the son is awarded the contract, fine.
ToniW (North Carolina)
Posts: 28
Posted:
Thanks Tim,

Our current landscaper's contract was for a year and has simply been continued uninterrupted ever since, because there has been no problem or request to change vendors. Would this be considered an automatic renewal or continued service on a monthly basis? His original contract ran from July to June.

I did read that in these kinds of situations, the relationship must be disclosed as such and as you state, that the Board member with the relationship must abstain from voting.

I just have qualms about owners providing contracted services.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
I am not an attorney and I do not work within the legal profession. I would expect that if the contract is silent on renewals, similar to leases if it continues it becomes a month to month.

Your Association should always seek bids when contracts are up. This way, even if there are no problems, you know if your getting a fair price.

"I just have qualms about owners providing contracted services."

I understand and believe most of the regular posters on this site have the same concerns. However, if proper procedures are followed, most of the concerns tend to be perceived (and those can be minimized with proper disclosure).

GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
I've read our bylaws and CCRs and could not find any language prohibiting Owners or Board member's family members from being contractors. I just have a very uneasy feeling about this and setting a precedent allowing it to happen.

Have you read the Articles of Incorporation, that is where our conflict of interest clause is.

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ToniW (North Carolina)
Posts: 28
Posted:
They say this:

"nothing shall prohibit the Association from compensating a director or any entity with which a director is affiliated for service or supplies furnished...in a capacity other than as a director pursuant to a contract or agreement with the Assoc. provided such director's interest was made known to the Board prior to entering into such contract and such contract was approved by a majority of the BODs, excluding the interested director."

This paragraph was split between 2 pages and I missed it! Thanks for pointing me in the right direction everyone!

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