RichardL11 (Colorado)
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If a ballot is disqualified for a legitimate reason, should the number of eligible voters be reduced by one.
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JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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Posts: 14,265
Posted:
I would say no unless the ballot also decided their eligibility to vote. Eligible to vote but say filled the ballot out wrong does not change their eligability to vote. They are still an eligible voter even if their ballot was disallowed.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Richard,
Eligible voters = those who have voting privileges (typically as determined on a specific date).
Eligible voters in attendance at a meeting = those who have voting privileges (typically as determined on a specific date) and are represented at the meeting in person or by proxy.
A ballot should have never been provided to an ineligible voter (unfortunately, it does happen).
If a ballot was provided to an ineligible voter and caught before the ballot was collected. If it was and if it's determined that enough illegal votes were cast by illegal voters to affect the result, and these votes can't be identified and removed from the count, then the vote is deemed null and must be retaken.
If a ballot is deemed Illegal, which is a ballot cast by a legal voter but can't be read, voted for too many candidates, ineligible candidate or for a fictional character, then that ballot still counts toward the number of votes cast.
See Robert's Rules for Voting by Ballot by Roberts Rules for Dummies (easiest language for the explanation I could locate).
Eligible voters = those who have voting privileges (typically as determined on a specific date).
Eligible voters in attendance at a meeting = those who have voting privileges (typically as determined on a specific date) and are represented at the meeting in person or by proxy.
A ballot should have never been provided to an ineligible voter (unfortunately, it does happen).
If a ballot was provided to an ineligible voter and caught before the ballot was collected. If it was and if it's determined that enough illegal votes were cast by illegal voters to affect the result, and these votes can't be identified and removed from the count, then the vote is deemed null and must be retaken.
If a ballot is deemed Illegal, which is a ballot cast by a legal voter but can't be read, voted for too many candidates, ineligible candidate or for a fictional character, then that ballot still counts toward the number of votes cast.
See Robert's Rules for Voting by Ballot by Roberts Rules for Dummies (easiest language for the explanation I could locate).
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
Posts: 2,535
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By RichardL11 on 09/26/2012 6:12 AM
If a ballot is disqualified for a legitimate reason, should the number of eligible voters be reduced by one.
If a ballot is disqualified for a legitimate reason, should the number of eligible voters be reduced by one.
No.
A ballot submitted by an individual who is not eligible to vote would invalidate, or disqualify, the ballot. However, the reverse is not true. An eligible voter is defined in your bylaws and the number of eligible voters does not change based on the status of one's ballot. A disqualified ballot would have the same effect as if the individual (voter) had not submitted any ballot at all (abstained). It does not change the number of eligible voters.
What reason was given for disqualifying the ballot?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Richard,
Was the ballot considered illegal (cast by a legal voter)
OR
Was the ballot ineligible (cast by/for a member not eligible to vote)?
Was the ballot considered illegal (cast by a legal voter)
OR
Was the ballot ineligible (cast by/for a member not eligible to vote)?
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
Posts: 2,535
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By TimB4 on 09/26/2012 7:05 AM
Richard,
Eligible voters = those who have voting privileges (typically as determined on a specific date).
Eligible voters in attendance at a meeting = those who have voting privileges (typically as determined on a specific date) and are represented at the meeting in person or by proxy.
A ballot should have never been provided to an ineligible voter (unfortunately, it does happen).
If a ballot was provided to an ineligible voter and caught before the ballot was collected. If it was and if it's determined that enough illegal votes were cast by illegal voters to affect the result, and these votes can't be identified and removed from the count, then the vote is deemed null and must be retaken.
If a ballot is deemed Illegal, which is a ballot cast by a legal voter but can't be read, voted for too many candidates, ineligible candidate or for a fictional character, then that ballot still counts toward the number of votes cast.
See Robert's Rules for Voting by Ballot by Roberts Rules for Dummies (easiest language for the explanation I could locate).
Richard,
Eligible voters = those who have voting privileges (typically as determined on a specific date).
Eligible voters in attendance at a meeting = those who have voting privileges (typically as determined on a specific date) and are represented at the meeting in person or by proxy.
A ballot should have never been provided to an ineligible voter (unfortunately, it does happen).
If a ballot was provided to an ineligible voter and caught before the ballot was collected. If it was and if it's determined that enough illegal votes were cast by illegal voters to affect the result, and these votes can't be identified and removed from the count, then the vote is deemed null and must be retaken.
If a ballot is deemed Illegal, which is a ballot cast by a legal voter but can't be read, voted for too many candidates, ineligible candidate or for a fictional character, then that ballot still counts toward the number of votes cast.
See Robert's Rules for Voting by Ballot by Roberts Rules for Dummies (easiest language for the explanation I could locate).
To add to this:
If a ballot is cast by a person who is eligible to vote but is disqualified for some other reason (voting for too many candidates, not voting for any candidate, is only a blank piece of paper, etc.) then the ballot is counted with the total number of votes cast.
If a ballot is disqualified because it was submitted by an individual who is not eligible to vote, then the ballot is not included in the total number of votes cast.
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