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RandyH3 (Illinois)
Posts: 5
Posted:
This is in reference to a 150 home HOA. I was wondering what other boards have done when the board after turnover, (10 year old neighborhood) does with things that are in violation but the developer didn't keep any log of the improvements that were and were not approved.
Example: the CCR's state: No fences or similar appurtenances shall be erected on any lot with the exception of wooden fences which may only with the prior written approval of the developer. There are at least 10 fences that are in the neighborhood that are cast iron or metal. All look nice, but clearly a CCR violation that anyone could say they recieved approval to build 6 years ago or it was built by the previous owner and since the developer gave us no information could have been built with approval.
What do we do when the neighbor of someone with a metal fence either complains or requests to build another metal fence? We are thinking of holding to the CCR's going forward, but putting together a grandfather statement, but were looking for someone elses experience. If someone has an example of such a statement I would love to see that.

Thank you!
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
We had a similar situation where, after 30 years, we discovered that the architectural files were not being properly updated. Therefore, this is what we did:

1) Organized the files, which included a running log summary of the design changes (see attached)

2) Searched minutes of all meetings (board and committee) to determine if a change was approved or disapproved and was recorded in the minutes but not in the files.

3) Inspected and identified all changes done to each lot

4) Using the summary page in the files, identified which change had documentation and which did not.

5) Identified those that did not have documentation but would have likely been approved and sent the following memorandum:

RE: DOCUMENTATION OF PRIOR APPROVAL

Mr. & Mrs. xyz,

This letter is to provide written documentation for prior approval of a [inset item].

It was discovered that the association files did not have a copy of an approval for this item. As it is likely that this change would have been approved, this committee acknowledges that the previous owner may have received verbal approval from a previous committee or the builder.

This written documentation is provided with the understanding, and expectation, that the previous approval required the owner of the lot, and any future owners, to properly maintain [item name] in good working order and soundness of repair. The current and future owner may replace the [item] with similar items, of similar size and material, as needed without prior approval from the Architectural Committee. Removal of the changing of materials or size will require prior approval.

Please keep this letter for your records.

6) Identified those that did not have documentation but would have likely been disapproved and sent the following letter:

RE: DOCUMENTATION OF PRIOR APPROVAL NEEDED

Mr. & Mrs. xyz,

The Architectural Committee noticed a [name item]. A review of the Architectural Committee files found no information about the [name item], and we are requesting copies of any documentation you may have in this regard. If documentation of approval is provided, no further action will be required. If documentation of approval is not provided, the Committee considers the item to be in violation of our covenants and requests that you [action] by [date]

Note: the people who were sent these letters removed the items in question.

7) Once this was done, we now maintain the files and only provide written approval/disapproval.

As for the metal fences, you might want to change the CC&Rs to just require prior approval for a fence. Then establish a guideline for fence height and/or material.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
I noticed that the attachment didn't go through due to size.

I'll try it again with this one.

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