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RichardK16 (Florida)
Posts: 8
Posted:
In our HOA we recently lost one of our directors who also happened to be an "Officer", namely "Assistant Treasurer".
When the board president made a motion to replace this director with a volunteer, he stated "I move to appoint Ms.Smith as the Assistant Treasurer". Ms. Smith then joined the board and voted on another motion. I maintain that the position of "assistant treasurer" is an Officer position and not a Director position and Ms. Smith cannot assume director duties and/or vote on motions, etc. The board disagrees with me. Who is correct?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
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I suspect that both you and the Board are correct.

Many people do not understand that being a Director is different than being an Officer. Since Officers are typically appointed from amongst the directors, they see them as the same. In reality, as you are aware, they are two different positions with different responsibilities.

Technically, you are correct. However, I suspect that the Board believes that in appointing Ms. Smith to the Office of Assistant Treasurer they also were appointing her to fill the vacant Directors seat.

Therefore, to ensure that the T's are crossed, why not make a motion at the next board meeting to appoint her as a Director as well (or to correct the minutes of the meeting where she was appointed to include the position of Director).

BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
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Posted By RichardK16 on 09/18/2012 5:28 AM
In our HOA we recently lost one of our directors who also happened to be an "Officer", namely "Assistant Treasurer".
When the board president made a motion to replace this director with a volunteer, he stated "I move to appoint Ms.Smith as the Assistant Treasurer". Ms. Smith then joined the board and voted on another motion. I maintain that the position of "assistant treasurer" is an Officer position and not a Director position and Ms. Smith cannot assume director duties and/or vote on motions, etc. The board disagrees with me. Who is correct?

It all depends on your bylaws and what was intended when the motion was made for the appointment.

First, was the president's motion to appoint a replacement duly voted on by the board?

Most bylaws that I am familiar with allow the board to appoint a person to fill a vacant director's seat on the board for the remainder of that term or until the next election of directors, whichever occurs first.

The person who left the board was a director. In naming a person to be appointed to become Assistant Treasurer it may well have been the president's, and the board's, intention to fill the vacancy created on the board by appointing another person to be a director as well as the new Assistant Treasurer. If this is true, then the new person is both a director and an officer and is entitled to vote.

This points out a common problem among those who are unfamiliar with parliamentary procedure. Care must be taken in the wording of motions and the recording in the minutes of exactly what is intended by a motion. Or, before a vote was taken, someone on the board should have asked the president what the intention was. Was the intention to replace the director? Or, was the intention only to appoint a new person to be assistant treasurer?

From your post, it is impossible for me to tell what the intention of the president's motion was.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Richard,

You are correct. The president moved to appoint someone to serve as an officer and the board voted in favor of that motion. If the president's intent was to appoint someone to the board of directors he should have stated his motion that way.

BruceF1 (Connecticut)
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Posted By LarryB13 on 09/18/2012 6:23 AM
Richard,

You are correct. The president moved to appoint someone to serve as an officer and the board voted in favor of that motion. If the president's intent was to appoint someone to the board of directors he should have stated his motion that way.


I agree, but if I were on the board I would have asked the president to clarify his intention. But, not all people are so detail oriented. I just happen to be that way. The fact remains, the president may not have precisely stated his intention, and nobody bothered to ask.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Richard

While it might not have followed the best procedure, is the end result not the same?

The BOD agreed to appoint a member to the BOD to fill a vacancy and agreed to appoint that new member as Asst. Treasure all at the same time. The majority of the BOD agreed.

Sort of like a multi-point motion. They can be tricky, but they can be done.

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