KevinK7 (Florida)
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Posts: 1,343
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As you may have read from my previous posts regarding the HOAs I have dealt with, one association had asserted for nearly 5 years that they had the authority to convert from voluntary to voluntary (with mandatory maintenance assessments for all). Well, something new has come to light from the court case against the HOA and their attorney - a letter from ten years ago that talks about the legality of the proposed changes the HOA wanted to make (enforcing mandatory assessments on every homeowner, even non-members). I thought the letter was interesting because of the advice the lawyer gave to the HOA and the course of action they had taken. I was curious as to the actions or opinions the experienced board members on this site would have taken.
The letter reads as follows (emphasis added):
I have now had the opportunity to thoroughly review all of the recorded covenants and restrictions for XXXXXXXXXX as provided to me by the Board of Directors. This includes Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions for Sections 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7A, 8, 9, 10, 10A, and 11 of XXXXXXXXXXXXXX. The the extent that there may be additional, recorded, covenants and restrictions or amendments of which I am unaware, this opinion could change.
The last time we met, I explained the state of the law in Florida relating to the conversion of a voluntary paying Association to a mandatory pay system. Specifically, I discussed the fact that the law in Florida is still somewhat unclear as to the extant by which we can amend the governing documents to create mandatory fees or assessments and the fact that a court could hold any such amendments invalid. The only way to guarantee the enforceability of any such amendments would be for the Association to have the amendments approved by 100% of all of the affected homeowners within XXXXXXXXXX, joined by the mortgage companies. Obviously, for practical reasons, this would be impossible. Therefore, our goal is to amend each of these Declarations for each section with a majority approval as required for all other amendments pursuant to the language in your covenants and restrictions. Though the current state of the law does not allow us to guarantee such amendments with less than 100%, it is my opinion that we would have a very strong arguments to support their validity. I am particularly pleased to see numerous references to a homeowners association in each of your Declarations which, in my opinion gives us even stronger arguments in favor of a mandatory pay amendment compared to those of your surrounding communities.
Understanding the legal difficulties and "gray" areas of the law involved in this matter, the Board, unfortunately must make some difficult decisions relating to the extent by which you wish to test the waters with an amendment.
Two things. One, the original covenants and restrictions of each of the sections have brief mention of homeowners associations, only urging lot owners "to form a homeowners association" and if they choose to do so require a certain percentage of homeowners in that particular section to annually agree to the existence of a HOA through a membership roll. Each section would have had to meet these separate requirements since each section had its own covenants and restrictions.
Secondly, there are provisions in the original covenants and restrictions that grants sole authority to modify the covenants and restrictions to a local philanthropic foundation. Any alteration to the governing documents would require their consent.
Concerning both of those points, membership rolls were not kept in accordance with the C&Rs and the philanthropic foundation did not give their consent to the changes and felt they were invalid, but were not going to waste their time in court because it did not directly affect them.
Also, consider that after this letter, the HOA and their lawyer insisted that they were not converting the association to mandatory - just mandatory pay - and that they were completely in the right to do so with the law backing them up. When the conversion was first trying to be enforced my family sent a letter to both the HOA and their attorney asking what law they based their new C&Rs on. Their lawyer cited a county collections case in a neighboring community as proof we needed to pay and told us that if we didn't they would take us to court and force us to pay all legal fees.
Knowing this, what are some thoughts on this lawyer's opinion?
The letter reads as follows (emphasis added):
I have now had the opportunity to thoroughly review all of the recorded covenants and restrictions for XXXXXXXXXX as provided to me by the Board of Directors. This includes Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions for Sections 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7A, 8, 9, 10, 10A, and 11 of XXXXXXXXXXXXXX. The the extent that there may be additional, recorded, covenants and restrictions or amendments of which I am unaware, this opinion could change.
The last time we met, I explained the state of the law in Florida relating to the conversion of a voluntary paying Association to a mandatory pay system. Specifically, I discussed the fact that the law in Florida is still somewhat unclear as to the extant by which we can amend the governing documents to create mandatory fees or assessments and the fact that a court could hold any such amendments invalid. The only way to guarantee the enforceability of any such amendments would be for the Association to have the amendments approved by 100% of all of the affected homeowners within XXXXXXXXXX, joined by the mortgage companies. Obviously, for practical reasons, this would be impossible. Therefore, our goal is to amend each of these Declarations for each section with a majority approval as required for all other amendments pursuant to the language in your covenants and restrictions. Though the current state of the law does not allow us to guarantee such amendments with less than 100%, it is my opinion that we would have a very strong arguments to support their validity. I am particularly pleased to see numerous references to a homeowners association in each of your Declarations which, in my opinion gives us even stronger arguments in favor of a mandatory pay amendment compared to those of your surrounding communities.
Understanding the legal difficulties and "gray" areas of the law involved in this matter, the Board, unfortunately must make some difficult decisions relating to the extent by which you wish to test the waters with an amendment.
Two things. One, the original covenants and restrictions of each of the sections have brief mention of homeowners associations, only urging lot owners "to form a homeowners association" and if they choose to do so require a certain percentage of homeowners in that particular section to annually agree to the existence of a HOA through a membership roll. Each section would have had to meet these separate requirements since each section had its own covenants and restrictions.
Secondly, there are provisions in the original covenants and restrictions that grants sole authority to modify the covenants and restrictions to a local philanthropic foundation. Any alteration to the governing documents would require their consent.
Concerning both of those points, membership rolls were not kept in accordance with the C&Rs and the philanthropic foundation did not give their consent to the changes and felt they were invalid, but were not going to waste their time in court because it did not directly affect them.
Also, consider that after this letter, the HOA and their lawyer insisted that they were not converting the association to mandatory - just mandatory pay - and that they were completely in the right to do so with the law backing them up. When the conversion was first trying to be enforced my family sent a letter to both the HOA and their attorney asking what law they based their new C&Rs on. Their lawyer cited a county collections case in a neighboring community as proof we needed to pay and told us that if we didn't they would take us to court and force us to pay all legal fees.
Knowing this, what are some thoughts on this lawyer's opinion?