DavidW5 (North Carolina)
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I am interested in hearing from anyone with experience with an HOA operating a shuttle bus. Here is our situation:
The county required the developer of our gated "55 or better" community to include a bus, to be donated to the HOA, in the Proffer (in Va. this is a legal agreement between the developer and the county for certain considerations in return for approval of the development - think of it as a legal form of bribes). The proffer says that at the time of the issuance of the 751st building permit (out of 800) the developer will provide a bus to be operated and maintained by the HOA. There are no other details in the proffer (e.g. size or type of bus, etc.). The HOA is still under developer control. We anticipate election of a homeowner board in 18 months. The 751st building permit will likely be issued in the next 6 months. There is nothing in the 2007 HOA budget for operation and maintenance of a bus.
Homeowner groups have requested the Board to survey the community to determine their opinion of if and how the bus should be operated (e.g. only within the gated community, to and from the local shopping areas and train and bus stops, on-call or scheduled service, etc.). These decisions are needed so a budget estimate can be developed. The developer controlled board has declined to do so. Without this information there will be no basis for estimating operating costs to include in the 2008 budget when it is developed this summer.
If the board does nothing, then the prospect is that sometime in the next six months a bus will appear in our parking lot and it will sit there depreciating until sometime after election of a homeowner board a year later. It seems to me that the present board will not have fulfilled its fiduciary duty to the HOA if it lets that happen.
Anyone have any experience operating a community shuttle bus service? How is it set up (contracted operation, driver hired by HOA, scheduled runs, on-call)? What costs are involved? Also any suggestions as to how to get the current board to get off its a**?
Dave
The county required the developer of our gated "55 or better" community to include a bus, to be donated to the HOA, in the Proffer (in Va. this is a legal agreement between the developer and the county for certain considerations in return for approval of the development - think of it as a legal form of bribes). The proffer says that at the time of the issuance of the 751st building permit (out of 800) the developer will provide a bus to be operated and maintained by the HOA. There are no other details in the proffer (e.g. size or type of bus, etc.). The HOA is still under developer control. We anticipate election of a homeowner board in 18 months. The 751st building permit will likely be issued in the next 6 months. There is nothing in the 2007 HOA budget for operation and maintenance of a bus.
Homeowner groups have requested the Board to survey the community to determine their opinion of if and how the bus should be operated (e.g. only within the gated community, to and from the local shopping areas and train and bus stops, on-call or scheduled service, etc.). These decisions are needed so a budget estimate can be developed. The developer controlled board has declined to do so. Without this information there will be no basis for estimating operating costs to include in the 2008 budget when it is developed this summer.
If the board does nothing, then the prospect is that sometime in the next six months a bus will appear in our parking lot and it will sit there depreciating until sometime after election of a homeowner board a year later. It seems to me that the present board will not have fulfilled its fiduciary duty to the HOA if it lets that happen.
Anyone have any experience operating a community shuttle bus service? How is it set up (contracted operation, driver hired by HOA, scheduled runs, on-call)? What costs are involved? Also any suggestions as to how to get the current board to get off its a**?
Dave