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FoogleL (Florida)
Posts: 2
Posted:
I live in a 100 units condo. All units have their air conditioner's condensers located on the roof and the condenser pipes run thru the roof and interior walls to get into units. My unit is on the top floor and at least 10 other unit's condenser pipes are running thru my unit's ceiling. Recently, some of these pipes have condensation build up and started dripping water. The property manager asked a Heat/AC company to inspect the problem. They have determined that they need to wrap all those pipes with new insulation. By our association law, each unit owns and responsible for their air conditioner condenser and pipes, so technically those owners should be paying for this repair. But since it's hard to determine which pipe belong to which unit and this involve with multiple pipes, the association might just assume the cost or bill back to the whole tier of units below my unit.

However, some portions of those pipes are located right above my interior air duct (for my heat and AC) which prevents them from insulating those portion. The property manager said the air duct served only our unit so we are responsible to relocate that port of the duct so the associate can insulate the pipes. I argued with the property manager and told him that the AC pipes are the original water dripping problem, not our duct. The property manager said he will consult with the association board and attorney. In general, if the association need to repair a common element within a unit, who is responsible to remove things that prevents them from accessing the repair area if those things belong to the unit owner? I checked our Declaration and Rules and Regulations, I didn't find any information regard this issue. Thanks and appreciated anyone's help.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Foo

I am sure this is an issue quite common to high rise condo buildings thus I assume some with more experience then myself can respond.

That said, I cannot see how you should incur any cost associated with this fix.

Remember that the the Management Company works for the BOD. Talk about it politely and professionally with members of the BOD. Make nice with them.

Hope this helps.
FoogleL (Florida)
Posts: 2
Posted:
JohnC46, thanks for your help and suggestions. Yeah, I know I need to talk to the Property Manager and the board in a friendly manner. After all, I am sure I will need their help for other things in the future. Bumping this topic up to see if any other people have experienced this kind of situation. Thanks in advance.
CarolR11 (Colorado)
Posts: 2,563
Posted:
Hi Foogle, I think the relative lack of response to your problem is that most on the site don't have your kind of situation.

We're a 25-story high rise, HVAC cooling towers on the roofs, but we have a closed loop system, which is nothing like yours. Nor are any around here. So i can't help either!

But do bring your problem to the Board and ask politely in writing for the HOA to pay for the fix to risers (pipes) that don't belong to you. Your duct is NOT the problem.

Meantime, perhaps you'll get a positive reply from the HOA attorney. But attorneys aren't plumbers and may not be able to visualise your problem without the mechanical drawings of your building, etc.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I can't say your vent isn't the problem here. The issue is condensation on pipes. The uninsulated vent could be causing the condensation to form. Vents lose heat/cold air. The temperature loss has to go somewhere. Those pipes are in the area. So it could be one of those "Chicken/egg" situations. The pipes condensate because the vents lose their temperature. It's kind of like a glass of water condensates on the outside of the glass where the liquid is in the glass. That may be a consideration when evaluating the whole story here.

Here is the result you can best hope for. A special assessment for all members to pay to fix the entire issue. A HOA is only funded by it's members for it's members. So if you say the HOA is responsible for paying for these items, where do you thing that money is coming from? From everyone dues. So don't expect if this is an expensive repair that dues won't go up or a special assessment assessed. It's got to be paid for somehow. The choice is if you want to push the issue onto everybody or keep it within your budget.

Former HOA President
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,569
Posted:
have the entire 'mess' low expansion spray foam insulated .... your problem is now gone

about $500 bucks including minor drywall repair

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