LoriS7 (Minnesota)
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Posts: 4
Posted:
Hello.
I am a new vice president of my buildings board. My building is very small, and no one wants to be on the board, so getting a seat was easy. I took a seat on the board almost 2 years ago, and had no experience or knowledge about it at all. I still know very little about what I am doing.
Things are not good in our building. We have a very archaic air conditioning system that uses water to cool each unit, which has been in place since it was built in the 1950s.. therefore, pipes run throughout the building carrying water to all units from a chiller on the roof.
We've had very bad problems with condensation on the pipes which has led to water leaking through ceilings and in walls. So much so that the cement ceilings are dripping and we need to set pans out to catch the water.
This problem has never been addressed seriously by the HOA. Within the last 2 years, the board has only wrapped a couple of pipes in some of the units, which did not help at all. We have been going round and round about it but no real solution has ever been pursued. It's a huge problem that will cost a major amount of money to fix, so I think that's why the board has been so lazy in dealing with it. They think about it for a bit, then forget about it until the next summer when it's impossible to ignore. They have let it go this way for nearly 20 years.
Recently I had my bedroom wall completely opened up to look at the damage, in an area where the majority of the water has been. Needless to say, it's mold city in there. It's very scary that we've been living with this as long as we have. The HVAC company advised that we shut down the AC permanently RIGHT NOW and begin to get the mold out of my wall. But that means the whole building will be without ANY AC for the rest of this horrible summer and we still have no new system decided upon.
We know that there is no other solution to this problem than getting the water out of the walls for good - meaning a complete changeover in AC system. We're looking at an 8-10K assessment for each unit here.
Not only that, but our association dues are 2X what all other buildings around here are. We pay over $400 per month in dues for this place, and there are NO amenities. Now we're supposed to pay a big assessment on top of that?
My husband and I and our daughter moved into this place a few years ago, after the initial collapse of the market, but before it truly tanked to where it is now. We were first time home buyers and thought we got a "good deal" because we bought it for $50k less than what it listed for. We had NO idea about this AC problem at all until the following summer after we bought it. We also recently found out that it is right next to a petroleum brownfield.
Of course since then we've seen a huge drop in the value because the market has continued to bottom out. Almost 1/3 of the value of what we paid for it is gone, and that's from the city's valuation. I'm fairly certain that at 109K it was overvalued by the city , since a similar unit down the hall sold last year for 60K (we paid 147K for ours)
We have no equity, and I think it's safe to say that we are underwater. We're only in for escalating association dues down the road, and with the dues already being so high, it's going to make our unit just that much more undesirable for a buyer. I can't imagine we'd be able to sell anytime within the next few years, even if the market recovered somewhat and we could fix the place up a little, because there is planned construction of a 3 story retail/condo building next door starting either next year or in 2014, and we're looking at 1-2 years of living next door to a construction site when that happens. Also, the construction site is the petroleum brownfield so we'll have to live next to toxic waste removal for a little while.
All in all, this place is NOT good for our health. Mental as well as physical.
I am seriously considering calling the board of health to see if they can come out and assess the place for mold. Maybe they would end up condemning it.
This is so not what we had in mind when we bought this place. We planned to hang on to this place in hopes that someday we could rent it out, but we don't know if we should ever spend the money that it would take to fix it up enough to attract a renter. As it is now, someone could buy an actual home for less than they would have to pay in rent here to cover our mortgage payment and assc. dues. I used to think that holding on to it would be the best thing in the long run, but I'm not so sure anymore.
I guess I am wondering if anyone here could give an idea of what course we should try and take in this very bad situation. Basically, WWYD?
Any thoughts would be very greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
I am a new vice president of my buildings board. My building is very small, and no one wants to be on the board, so getting a seat was easy. I took a seat on the board almost 2 years ago, and had no experience or knowledge about it at all. I still know very little about what I am doing.
Things are not good in our building. We have a very archaic air conditioning system that uses water to cool each unit, which has been in place since it was built in the 1950s.. therefore, pipes run throughout the building carrying water to all units from a chiller on the roof.
We've had very bad problems with condensation on the pipes which has led to water leaking through ceilings and in walls. So much so that the cement ceilings are dripping and we need to set pans out to catch the water.
This problem has never been addressed seriously by the HOA. Within the last 2 years, the board has only wrapped a couple of pipes in some of the units, which did not help at all. We have been going round and round about it but no real solution has ever been pursued. It's a huge problem that will cost a major amount of money to fix, so I think that's why the board has been so lazy in dealing with it. They think about it for a bit, then forget about it until the next summer when it's impossible to ignore. They have let it go this way for nearly 20 years.
Recently I had my bedroom wall completely opened up to look at the damage, in an area where the majority of the water has been. Needless to say, it's mold city in there. It's very scary that we've been living with this as long as we have. The HVAC company advised that we shut down the AC permanently RIGHT NOW and begin to get the mold out of my wall. But that means the whole building will be without ANY AC for the rest of this horrible summer and we still have no new system decided upon.
We know that there is no other solution to this problem than getting the water out of the walls for good - meaning a complete changeover in AC system. We're looking at an 8-10K assessment for each unit here.
Not only that, but our association dues are 2X what all other buildings around here are. We pay over $400 per month in dues for this place, and there are NO amenities. Now we're supposed to pay a big assessment on top of that?
My husband and I and our daughter moved into this place a few years ago, after the initial collapse of the market, but before it truly tanked to where it is now. We were first time home buyers and thought we got a "good deal" because we bought it for $50k less than what it listed for. We had NO idea about this AC problem at all until the following summer after we bought it. We also recently found out that it is right next to a petroleum brownfield.
Of course since then we've seen a huge drop in the value because the market has continued to bottom out. Almost 1/3 of the value of what we paid for it is gone, and that's from the city's valuation. I'm fairly certain that at 109K it was overvalued by the city , since a similar unit down the hall sold last year for 60K (we paid 147K for ours)
We have no equity, and I think it's safe to say that we are underwater. We're only in for escalating association dues down the road, and with the dues already being so high, it's going to make our unit just that much more undesirable for a buyer. I can't imagine we'd be able to sell anytime within the next few years, even if the market recovered somewhat and we could fix the place up a little, because there is planned construction of a 3 story retail/condo building next door starting either next year or in 2014, and we're looking at 1-2 years of living next door to a construction site when that happens. Also, the construction site is the petroleum brownfield so we'll have to live next to toxic waste removal for a little while.
All in all, this place is NOT good for our health. Mental as well as physical.
I am seriously considering calling the board of health to see if they can come out and assess the place for mold. Maybe they would end up condemning it.
This is so not what we had in mind when we bought this place. We planned to hang on to this place in hopes that someday we could rent it out, but we don't know if we should ever spend the money that it would take to fix it up enough to attract a renter. As it is now, someone could buy an actual home for less than they would have to pay in rent here to cover our mortgage payment and assc. dues. I used to think that holding on to it would be the best thing in the long run, but I'm not so sure anymore.
I guess I am wondering if anyone here could give an idea of what course we should try and take in this very bad situation. Basically, WWYD?
Any thoughts would be very greatly appreciated.
Thanks!