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JohnM60 (Michigan)
Posts: 1
Posted:
In 1973, our lake association was developed as a non profit domestic corporation and included articles of incorporation and bylaws. Since that time all relative required state forms have been updated as required by the state. Since 1973, no membership meetings have every been held, no elections and no dues collected.and there is no liability insurance. The association owns seven properties that are 7 common areas (non water lots and on the water lots. These lots are shown in the association land plat. The lots are used for partys, boat launching, swimming and boating. My question is who is liable for the common areas??
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I would say all members/owners in the association.

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FredS7 (Arizona)
Posts: 927
Posted:
If it is a CORPORATION- would not liability be limited to the assets of the corporation?
JM10 (California)
Posts: 503
Posted:
Sounds like a scary situation that requires a lawyer.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
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Posted By FredS7 on 07/22/2012 8:54 AM
If it is a CORPORATION- would not liability be limited to the assets of the corporation?

Fred I'm not an attorney but it is my understanding that if the corporation is not protecting itself with insurance then all members who own a share can be sued. The phrase is Jointly and Severally, meaning if one homeowner has deeper pockets than the other, they would bear the brunt of the judgement if any.

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BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
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IANAL, but

I believe that as a Limited Liability Corp, your personal assets may be somewhat shielded. However, It does not appear you are an LLC.

Secondly, were I a judge (IANAJ), I might look at a "corporation" who does nothing to protect itself as even MORE liable than one that did due diligence, filed forms, maintained certs, insurance, etc.. After all, what message would be sent to deny liability to a company because they were BAD at doing the required things, and to punish those who DID the required things.

I would opine that it's time for your corporation/HOA to get their act together, and begin to act professionally, for all concerned.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Is the corporation that was formed in 1973 and now has no officers or directors or member meetings still recognized by the state as a corporation?

Liability is not determined by the existence of insurance. Individual members of a non-profit corporation cannot be held liable for the acts or omissions of the corporation. Members can, however, be held liable for their own personal acts.

Personal injury attorneys usually look for a cash payout. Having no insurance and no cash assets makes the corporation almost judgment-proof. While the real estate owned by the association may have some monetary value, most attorneys do not want to go through the hassle of obtaining title and then liquidating the property.

JM10 (California)
Posts: 503
Posted:
If it isn't recognized as a corporation, you may have other problems such as the validity of any contracts signed.

Should there be a severe injury or death, grieving parents, etc. might take you to court. Only a lawyer can help you sort this out IMHO.

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