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JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
An association lawyers opinion:

ADA Pool Regulations and Community Associations

In 2010, the Department of Justice (DOJ) issued revised requirements for the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) regarding accessible swimming pools. In light of these new regulations, many community associations have approached me with questions regarding their association’s compliance. This article seeks to address those concerns and provide a brief summary of the scope of the 2010 Standards for Accessible Design.

The ADA strives to provide equal opportunity to people with disabilities. Title II of the ADA applies to state and local government services and Title III applies to public accommodations and commercial facilities. The updated swimming pool accessibility provisions are intended to affect all newly constructed, altered and existing swimming pools with very limited exceptions. However, privately owned community associations are generally not encompassed under the ADA.

Title III defines a public accommodation as a facility owned by a private entity whose operations affect commerce. In order to fall under the purview of the ADA, a community association must be engaged in commerce. This would include, by way of example, selling memberships to the general public, providing a place of lodging to the public (e.g. hotels, “condotels,” and resorts), offering swimming lessons to the general public, or hosting swim meets or events where the public is invited to access the pool.

If the community association is a public accommodation, there must be an accessible means of entry and exit on all newly constructed and altered swimming pools, wading pools and spas on or after March 15, 2012. Existing pools must be brought into compliance to the extent that it is readily achievable on or after March 15, 2012. This readily achievable standard takes into consideration financial constraints and overall feasibility.

Larger pools, those with more than 300 linear feet of pool wall, are required to have two accessible means of entry, one of which must be a sloped entry. Smaller pools are only required to have one accessible means of entry, which can be either a lift or a sloped entry. Public accommodations also must consider maintenance and staff training as it relates to the accessible features. Tax credits and deductions are available through the IRS for small businesses making these accessible means of entry.

The information contained herein is intended for informational purposes only and should not be construed as legal advice. Seek a competent attorney for advice on any legal issue.

Hope this helps.

ElaineS2 (California)
Posts: 47
Posted:
John
Thanks for this information.

Last time I thought about a pool was when an young P.M. tried to tell me that the 3" adjacent decorative fountain fell under the Virginia Graham Baker rule, but I remember being surprised that our private little pool was considered a public resource when it's inside a locked gate and not for public use.

I wonder, how could I find out if state regulations may trump title III (which I assume is Federal).
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Elaine federal trumps state not the other way around.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
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Posted By GlenL on 02/13/2013 1:41 PM
Elaine federal trumps state not the other way around.

when the two are in conflict.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
I am not nor do I play a lawyer.

A friend of mine is Property Manager for a very pricey, high dollar condo association and the pool question came up. He asked their lawyer for an opinion. Basically the lawyer said if the pool is for the private use of the owners and their guests, not open to the public, they do not rent nor allow any other use of the pool, and have no outside income for the pool usage then the ADA guidelines did not apply to them as it is a private pool.

I am not arguing the point. I am just passing information along.

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
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Posted By JohnC46 on 02/13/2013 6:25 PM

A friend of mine is Property Manager for a very pricey, high dollar condo association and the pool question came up. He asked their lawyer for an opinion. Basically the lawyer said if the pool is for the private use of the owners and their guests, not open to the public, they do not rent nor allow any other use of the pool, and have no outside income for the pool usage then the ADA guidelines did not apply to them as it is a private pool.

While not specific to swimming pools, there is a 2007 Arizona case where the Court of Appeals ruled that facilities owned by an association are not covered under ADA as they are not places of public accommodation. Nolan v. Starlight Pines HOA, http://www.azcourts.gov/Portals/0/OpinionFiles/Div1/2007/1%20CA-CV%2006-0572.PDF

The following passage is taken directly from that case:

Generally, a facility is not regarded as a public accommodation unless it is open “indiscriminately to other members of the general public.” Jankey v. Twentieth Century Fox Film Corp., 14 F. Supp. 2d 1174, 1178 (C.D. Cal. 1998). As the court in that case stated, under the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, “occasional use of . . . [a] private facility by the general public is not sufficient to convert that facility into a public accommodation.” Id. (commissary, store, and automated teller machine located on a private movie studio lot were not places of public accommodation despite evidence that they were occasionally made available to persons who were not studio employees or their guests).
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
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From the 20th Century Fox case cited above, it would appear that an association pool would still be considered a private pool even if outsiders, such as a swim team, was to use it with permission or under an agreement. It does not become a public pool until the general public is able to walk in at will and use it.

Obviously, seeking a lawyer's advice would be a good idea.

JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,569
Posted:
a 'class B public pool' is not necessarilly a 'public accomodation'

a private pool is owned by ONE person/family and is limited to ONE person's guests

(in SC):

a class A public pool is open to all members of the public or any paying guest (hotel type) and is a public accomodation covered by the ADA

a class B public pool is open to owners and their guests only ~ HOA type pool ~ ADA does NOT apply

the TERMINOLOGY is confusing

if the swim team is inside the HOA ~ no sweat

if the pool is RENTED to an outside team ~ ADA applies

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