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JannaC (Georgia)
Posts: 11
Posted:
There is a resident in our neighborhood who recently received a letter regarding his fence being in violation of the covenants because it does not start on the back corner of the house. The fence was approved and constructed almost a year ago. I do believe the fence comes to the front half of the house on the side. Two neighbors near him also have the same violations, their fences come half way up the side not the back corner and they did not receive demand letters. One of the offenders now sits on the ACC and is spear heading these letters and has stated his personal fence is fine. One board member recently stated the reason for the letter was because a neighbor wants one just like the resident who got the letter, but they can't deny him until the fence in question is remedied. The board does not want the resident to build this fence. Now keep in mind the letter was in regard to location not materials. Can an HOA demand remedy from one homeowner but not demand the same from the other homeowners who have the same violation?
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Janna

Will need to see and know more to comment about your specific issues.

Let me add one thing. One HOA I know that allows backyard fences only, says a fence cannot come any further forward then the back edge of the house. The exception is it can come forward to align with the back edge of the adjoining home. This is so the front edge of fences will align between homes.

Also there can be alignment issues on corner and strange shaped lots that typically will have to be ruled by the approving committee.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Janna

Were the homeowners in control when the original fence(s) were erected. If the declarant was in control and gave permission, it stands.
JannaC (Georgia)
Posts: 11
Posted:
The homeowners were in control and the covenants states the fence cannot be further up then the back corner of the house. His lot is actually odd shaped and was approved for materials and location. I guess my question is, does he have an argument for inconsistent application of the covenants when do other fences have the same violations plain as day.
JannaC (Georgia)
Posts: 11
Posted:
I wanted to add the covenants does address oddly shaped lots where having the fence at the back corner of the house is physically impossible. It does not state it can be forward to align with another fence. The other two fences actually have the type of lots that would allow for adherence to the covenants, but one chose to put his fence their so he can have more back yard or so I was told.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
There is a resident in our neighborhood who recently received a letter regarding his fence being in violation of the covenants because it does not start on the back corner of the house. The fence was approved and constructed almost a year ago. I do believe the fence comes to the front half of the house on the side.

You say he got permission. If so, he is not in violation.

Two neighbors near him also have the same violations, their fences come half way up the side not the back corner and they did not receive demand letters.

While the violations could be subjective to your understanding, did they also get permission/approval? If so, then they are not in violation.

One of the offenders now sits on the ACC and is spear heading these letters and has stated his personal fence is fine.

Did this person on the ACC get permission for his fence? If so, his persoanl fence is fine.

One board member recently stated the reason for the letter was because a neighbor wants one just like the resident who got the letter, but they can't deny him until the fence in question is remedied. The board does not want the resident to build this fence. Now keep in mind the letter was in regard to location not materials.

What you seem to have is an ACC that thinks/belives different then prior ACC's when it comes to granting exceptions. While many may not like it, it is what it is. Past mistakes do not justify one to keep making them. They can deny it.

Can an HOA demand remedy from one homeowner but not demand the same from the other homeowners who have the same violation?

Not exactly the way to do it, but if one had permission then that permission stands. Let the homeowner(s) fight their own battle.

Remember, we are only hearing one side of this and that is from you. If the facts are as you interpert/say then I would be banding a few people together to express my concerns to the BOD.

What is your role/relationship in this whole situation?

Hope this helps.

JannaC (Georgia)
Posts: 11
Posted:
To the best of my knowledge after consulting with past ACC members they all received approval. My role in this is get information from people with similar experiences who have either sat on boards or are currently on one. Residents are coming to me with these questions and concerns and asking me and another individual to sit on the board and change things. I understand the board may have every right to suddenly take a strong stance, however, just because they can doesn't mean they should or at least have done it differently. Many residents are angry looking for answers and the board isn't giving any. The covenants hasn't been updated since the builder wrote it 9 years ago. All residents understand they signed a covenants, but like I said they are using it as a sword and weapon not a tool to build a better community.
CaroleJ (Georgia)
Posts: 70
Posted:
Janna, if the fences were approved, the ACC cannot come back a year later (or at any time) and demand remedies. The Board or the ACC does not have to have an approved fence remedied in order to deny the same to another homeowner today, but that's likely to cause a rift among members of the community. Is there a good reason to deny the fence today, or is it a case of doing it because they can? Why would the Board not want this one resident to have the same fence that others apparently already have?

Also, just so you aware, Georgia law (O.G.C.A. ยง 9-3-29 Breach of restrictive covenant) only allows two years after the violation occurs, not when the Board discovers it, to bring suit.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Here is a novel idea for dealing with all the fence-and-shed complaints. Most CC&R's contain a provision similar to the one below:

This Declaration may be enforced by the Declarant, by any Owner or lessee of any Parcel, by the holder of a Bona Fide First Mortgage on any Parcel, by the Association, or any one or more of said persons acting jointly.


The HOA should adopt policy similar to:

The association has a fiduciary duty to maintain, improve, and regulate the use of the common areas that it owns.

The Association does not own the individual homes and/or lots of its members and has no fiduciary duty to maintain, improve, or regulate the use of property that it does not own.

The CC&R's neither mandate their enforcement by the Association nor does that document make enforcement exclusive to the Association.

The CC&R's authorize members of the association to bring an action against other members to enforce the provisions of that document.

Therefore, the association shall no longer enforce or attempt to enforce deed restrictions on property not owned by the Association which members may enforce themselves.

This policy is not a waiver of any provision of the CC&R's.


Once homeowners find out what it costs to bring and/or defend an enforcement action, the bickering will end.

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