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TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
This was a new post in an old thread
old thread. Since the question is good, I felt it should have it's own thread.

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Posted By TerryS on 06/19/2012 2:02 PM
Hey Tim - I know this is a couple of years after this discussion, but I was doing a search on grandfathering and found it, and your comments. You helped me a couple of years ago (I was on our BOD here, in VA also); I got off for a year but I'm back on - again as President - and looking for some guidance. We're interested in trying to change a section of our Covenants, but grandfather lot owners in who purchased before whatever the effective date of the new version will be (assuming we can get enough to vote!) I read with interest your comment that VA "actually provided a form of grandfathering in their property owners association act, which states that the Association is bound by any statement they made in the disclosure given to the buyer." I've searched thru the POA act and can't find that. I believe you, I just need help seeing where it is! Our issue is allowing campers, travel trailers, etc. on lots without a house (to camp temporarily 9 mths of the year - we are on Lake Anna). Our Covenants have always allowed them, but over the years we have become much more residential looking, it looks like the majority of the membership want that changed. But some of us on the Board figured that those that had been allowed in the past, should be "grandfathered" in, and continue to be allowed until they sell their lot. Having that info. from the State will certainly help quiet those that want to just pull the plug on everyone (even though, personally I'm not for them, I figured that legally we could be in for a battle that we would probably lose!). Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks...Terry

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Terry,

VA ยง 55-509.7 has the language that binds the Association to any statement made in a disclosure package [emphasis added]:

G. When a disclosure packet has been delivered as required by ยง 55-509.5, the association shall, as to the purchaser, be bound by the statements set forth therein as to the status of the assessment account and the status of the lot with respect to any violation of the declaration, bylaws, rules and regulations, architectural guidelines and articles of incorporation, if any, of the association as of the date of the statement unless the purchaser had actual knowledge that the contents of the disclosure packet were in error.

We realized that this provision in VA law could change and/or be eliminated. Realizing that the likelihood of having enough members participate in a vote to amend the CC&Rs, I led a campaign to amend our Bylaws. Here is our amended (less the name of the Association):

Section 3 Grandfather Clause: Any design change (past, present or future) to a Lot located within the [name] Association that was approved, in writing, or identified as being in compliance on any past, current or future disclosure packet properly issued under the Virginia Property Owners' Act, is hereby considered in compliance with current or future Architectural Guidelines providing the item identified in the design change or as reported on a Disclosure Statement is kept in proper repair and appearance and if replaced, the replacement must adhere to the current guidelines adopted and in force by the Association at the time of replacement.

This all came about because a Board chose to standardize storm doors and was trying to force members to comply with the new standard by claiming previously approved storm doors needed to be replaced irregardless of the condition of the current door or when they were previously approved. There were other issues involved as well.

Hope this helps,

Tim
TerryS (Virginia)
Posts: 22
Posted:
Tim - thanks so much. I just read your Grandfather Clause to my husband (who is on our Environmental Control Committee - who handles both building issues and other misc stuff like our camper issue) and he said to pass along his thanks too! Your wording is exactly what we need, as is the info. from the VA POA Act. Hugely appreciated! - Terry

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