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MarciaV (California)
Posts: 52
Posted:
I found out yesterday that the president of our tiny complex (8 units) has written checks to his company and for rent for his buddy's apt. who he called the property manager. I saw the checks from the bank. When asked about it - he said that the other director (developer)TOLD him he could do it. He is stealing from the HOA.

This same person has a tax lien on his property and is the only one on the HOA checking account.

Can we sue for the misused funds? Heinsists that he is allowed to use the monies for whatever purpose he deems necessary.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Marcia

You said the developer. Is your HOA under declarant control?
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
Posted:
Marcia,

If the developer is still in control of the HOA he can pretty much do as he pleases, or at least, he may think he can.

Some states prohibit commingling HOA funds with the developer's funds and he must still be accountable to the homeowners for the use of HOA funds. You would have to check your state laws to see what, if any, limits might apply in your case.

As a tax preparer, I do know the IRS frowns on commingling funds in any manner: personal funds with business funds; funds from two or more separate business, and so forth. If ever audited by the IRS it makes for a nasty scene.

MarciaV (California)
Posts: 52
Posted:
The HOA is self-managed as of 9.17.11 when the president was appointed by the developer. The items in question happened after 9.17.11.

I agree about the commingling of funds. The whole bookkeeping system is fuzzy math. He couuld not produce deposit slips for me when I asked about so-called advances that he made to the HOA.
DavidW5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 565
Posted:
Marcia,

I question whether you are truly "self managed" since you stated that the president was "appointed by the developer". In my experience, when the developer has the authority to appoint the president, the developer also has the right to remove the president. It is only when the members of the association elect the president that the members are in control.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Marcia:

Even though the association is under the developer's control, the directors and officers still have a fiduciary duty to the association and its members. The question is does either of the above breach that duty?

Payment of association funds to the president's own company is certainly suspicious and cause for further investigation. What did the president's company provide, was it a normal and necessary expense for the association, and was the amount of the expense reasonable for what was provided? Without answers to those basic questions you cannot know whether there was an actual breach of duty.

Using the association funds to pay rent for a resident manager is, unfortunately, within the realm of actions that the association may take. While most of us would not hire a resident manager for an eight-unit condo complex with unsold units, the board may lawfully do so. Under the business judgment rule the courts will not generally interfere with a lawful decision -- even a really bad or really stupid decision -- of a corporation.

The one concern that you could raise is whether the HOA is filing the appropriate tax forms for the resident property manager. You should note, however, that housing for a resident manager is not considered income to the manager.

Upon further thought, though: If the resident manager is performing no work, as evidenced by lack of a paycheck, it may be a breach of fiduciary duty to pay his rent. You may have some problem investigating this as the association can legally withhold employee records, including their compensation.
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LarryB13 on 06/16/2012 6:03 PM
You should note, however, that housing for a resident manager is not considered income to the manager.

Not true. The IRS considers any form of compensation in return for services provided as wages and is subject to income, social security, and medicare taxes. This would include housing.

According to IRS publication 17, "Fringe benefits received in connection with your services are included in your income as compensation unless you pay fair market value for them or they are specifically excluded by law."

There are exceptions. For example, the cost of housing is excluded for members of the clergy, members of the military, and certain government employees.
MarciaV (California)
Posts: 52
Posted:
The so-called president showed me a document that the developer signed saying that he appointed him as president. I question the validity of the document. Not one of the other unit owners were told about this or given a copy back in Oct. 2011. The wierd thing is that we had a developer that I will call Joe. Then the investor who bought all of the properties from Joe is Bob. The document the president showed me was signed by Joe - the developer, not Bob who bought all of the units.

The monies paid to the president's company were supposedly used to pay for the sanding down of his wooden gargage door to be prepped for revarnishing. The monies paid to him from our HOA account were a few days after he was appointed president. To this day - his garage door has never been revarnished and it sits as an eyesore. No other unit owner's garage was sanded down nor was it made available to them.

The monies paid out to his buddy and the supposed property manager were paid to a property where the man was living. I can tell you that no other owner could verify any work this guy did. When I asked to see the selection process and where his buddy was approved by a homeowner's vote, he could not produce anything, but he paid out $1,500 to this guy. No documents were filed for taxes, etc. for him.

The books are cooked. There is no doubt about. My husband said that to him and he just looked at us.

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Bruce,

My wife and I were resident managers of self storage facilities for several years. Our living quarters were always provided by the employer. We paid no taxes on the value of the housing nor did the employer file a 1099 for the housing.

There is an IRS regulation that says, in effect, that if a person is required to live on premises as part of his job that the housing provided is not considered compensation. Since we have been out of that business for a number of years I no longer have a citation to the exact provision of the IRS code but it should apply to a resident manager in an apartment or condo complex.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Marcia:

Paying to sand down the garage door from HOA funds is a tough call. If the CC&R's mandate that garage door finishing is an HOA responsibility then your president could make a viable argument that it was a necessary and normal expense.

If HOA funds were used to pay rent for a so-called manager to live off-site, that would be a highly unusual use of HOA funds and most likely a breach of fiduciary duty. The assessments you and the other owners pay are not the personal property of the president or board members. You will likely have to file a lawsuit to get your hands on all the documentation for the money paid to or for the president's buddy as personnel records do not have to be disclosed.

Since you believe that the president's friend is receiving compensation and no tax information is being filed, I would suggest "dropping a dime" and file a complaint with both the IRS and AZ Dept of Revenue.
MarciaV (California)
Posts: 52
Posted:
The guy did not live in one of the 8 units here. He, in fact, lived across the street at a dog boarding facility that has studio apartments and some office space in addition to the boarding and dog hospital.

$375.00/month the president paid out (this is his buddy)with no vote on it by the other members. Our guess is that they both took a cut of the money for themselves.
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LarryB13 on 06/17/2012 11:05 AM
Bruce,

My wife and I were resident managers of self storage facilities for several years. Our living quarters were always provided by the employer. We paid no taxes on the value of the housing nor did the employer file a 1099 for the housing.

There is an IRS regulation that says, in effect, that if a person is required to live on premises as part of his job that the housing provided is not considered compensation. Since we have been out of that business for a number of years I no longer have a citation to the exact provision of the IRS code but it should apply to a resident manager in an apartment or condo complex.

You are referring to the exclusion where: 1) The housing is provided on the business premises (the employee's place of work); 2) The housing must be provided for the convenience of the employer, and 3) The housing must be a condition of employment. In other words, if the employee has a choice of living on premises or elsewhere, the exclusion does not apply. From the description of your previous employment it sounds like this may have been true in your case. It's not clear to me that this is true in the present case.

As a side note, now that tax season is over, one of my present tasks is reviewing tax returns of people where there is a disagreement between the individual and the IRS about whether or not certain forms of "income" should have been reported.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MarciaV on 06/17/2012 11:46 AM
$375.00/month the president paid out (this is his buddy)with no vote on it by the other members.

Even if your association was under the control of the unit owners, it is unlikely that the owners would have a direct vote on expenses as this is what the board of directors is for.
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LarryB13 on 06/17/2012 8:41 PM
Posted By MarciaV on 06/17/2012 11:46 AM
$375.00/month the president paid out (this is his buddy)with no vote on it by the other members.


Even if your association was under the control of the unit owners, it is unlikely that the owners would have a direct vote on expenses as this is what the board of directors is for.

Could "other members" mean other board members?
MarciaV (California)
Posts: 52
Posted:
There is no documentation as to board members. Only a document the so-called president showed me that the developer appointed him as president and a director.

I'm still confused as to how this all should have taken place.

There was a developer who sold all 8 units to an investor. He in turn has sold 5 units to individuals. When we bought - we were the first ones who did - the INVESTOR was the director on the HOA. Then in Sept. 2011, the DEVELOPER was the one who appointed the so-called president. Then, in May 2012, somehow there was another director appointed, I guess. None of the other unit owners knew about the president being appointed and the INVESTOR stepping down, nor the appointmet of the director in May 2012. All of the sudden, we are just told!

My questions to the so-called president were that this all was not handled according to state laws. Am I off base?
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Yes.

While Arizona condo association law requires that board meetings be open to the members any time they meet, the board may meet without notice at any time while still under declarant control. This allows the developer/declarant/investor to control the board, meet without notice, and appoint officers. Until control of the association passes to the owners there is not much you may be able to do.

You did raise a new issue that you need to research. When the investor purchased all eight condos, did the developer assign his declarant's rights to the investor?

This is important because normally the developer remains in control until a certain number/percentage of units are sold. In this case, 100% of the units were sold to one buyer. If the declarant's rights were not also transferred to the investor, then the declarant's rights to run the association were terminated. Even though the investor owned a majority of the units for a time, he cannot ignore the requirements for elections and open meetings if he does not hold the declarant's rights.

Go on to the Maricopa County Recorder's website and start searching using the name of the condos, the developer's name (both personal and business), and the investor's name. You need to look for a document with a title something like "Assignment of Declaration" or "Assignment of Declarant's Rights."

The fact that all 8 units were sold may change everything.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Let me clarify this a little bit.

If the declarant/developer assigned his rights to the investor when the investor purchased all 8 units, then the investor can control the board of your association until whatever conditions set forth in your CC&R's are met for turning control over to the owners.

If the investor was not assigned the declarant's rights, then the investor could control the board only until such time as he was no longer the majority owner. Even as majority owner, he was required to hold elections, announce board meetings, and make them open to the other owners. As he is now just a minority owner, he has no right to control the association unless he is also the declarant.

A question I have no definitive answer to is whether the declarant could, at this late date, assign his rights to the investor who still owns 3 of the 8 units? My first thought would be that since 100% of the units were sold to the investor and most of them re-sold to others, that it would be too late for the developer to assign his declarant's rights to the investor as the developer's declarant's rights were terminated upon the sale of all units.

BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MarciaV on 06/16/2012 12:01 PM
The HOA is self-managed as of 9.17.11 when the president was appointed by the developer.

This sounds to me like you are still under developer control, or control may have been transferred to an investor as Larry has pointed out. The key is your statement that the the developer appointed the president. When the homeowners are in control, the president, at least indirectly, is appointed by the homeowners. By that I mean it is the homeowners who elect the board, and the board members, who represent the homeowners, elects (or appoints) the president. This does not appear to be what has happened in your case as you have described it.
MarciaV (California)
Posts: 52
Posted:
Larry: Thanks for the clarification. Unfortunately, there is so much mayhem with paperwork, assignments, etc. that there is not clear paper trail. I will have to look at the dates and paperwork and CCR's again.

Unfortunately, there is no doubt in my mind that the president has stolen and misused funds. No doubt at all. He is supposed to be getting me more records I requested and copies of deposit slips that show the monies the owners paid to the HOA actually went into the HOA account. He could not produce these at the meeting on Friday.

I will wait a week or so for the documents.

I believe we will be suing him, the directors of the HOA and the HOA.

I have been advised to not pay my HOA dues on July 1 and instead open a new checking account depositing that money in there until such a lawsuit had been filed or he just quits.

I am not going to keep giving this man money when it most certainly is used for his will.
MarciaV (California)
Posts: 52
Posted:
Larry ~ I looked on the Maricopa County Recorder's website and cannot find anything from the developer to the investor to the president that looks like an assignment of declaration or assgnment of declarant's rights. I opened a lot of documents and saw nothing.

Do you or does anyone know how I should approach the developer, investor, president and board member about the illegal activity with the monies? I've had some people tell me to call the sheriff's office - but, how do I prove that there is criminal activity?

Should I send an email and in hard copy to these individuals alerting them to the fact that they have broken the law and that they need to make restitution?

Thanks!
MarciaV (California)
Posts: 52
Posted:
Does anyone know how often I can request to see the books of my HOA? I just reviewed what little was provided to me on June 15, 2012. Thanks.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Arizona law places no limits on how often you may request to see the books but it would seem that at some point it would become excessive and harassment. I have no idea where that point would be.
MarciaV (California)
Posts: 52
Posted:
Thanks, Larry - as always for your input! I want to keep this guy on guard until the books go to someone else or I sue him. I am not going to keep giving my HOA dues to him every month without him being held accountable for the use of the monies.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Aha..another pesrson "looking" to not pay their obligations based on some esoteric reasoning...just what we need more of.

Pay now....dispute later...collect damgaes if correct.

MarciaV (California)
Posts: 52
Posted:
Sorry you see it that way, John. I have facts. Otherwise, I would not be pursuing this avenue. Thank you for your input.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Marcia

Sorry you see it that way.

Not paying ones dues is putting the whole association in jeopardy. Not paying dues is like cutting ones nose off to spite ones face. There are other ways to correct wrongs.
MarciaV (California)
Posts: 52
Posted:
John ~ It is always good to have other's opinions. I appreciate the feedback. Thank you.
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
Posted:
Marcia,

John's point is more practical than you may realize.

Suppose you do decide to withhold your dues and later sue the HOA. The problem is your suit is likely to be dismissed if you can't prove how you were harmed. If you haven't paid any money, you're not out any money, therefore you have not been harmed.

If you pay your dues and later sue claiming your dues have been misused, you have a better chance of winning. Also, the greater the amount lost, the greater the chances for recovery. Your chances of winning a lawsuit improve if you've done everything you are obligated to.

As they say, two wrongs don't make a right.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Marcia:

I'm going to join the chorus and strongly urge you not to withhold payments of your assessments. It just gives the other side ammunition to use against you. When you go to court against the developer, you want to do so with clean hands. You have a legally enforceable obligation to pay that does not go away just because the developer and his cronies are not doing their part.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
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Posted By MarciaV on 06/25/2012 4:07 PM

I am not going to keep giving my HOA dues to him every month without him being held accountable for the use of the monies.

Verifying how the money is spent is a good thing.

I don't know if this was written to stress that you wanted accountability or that you were threatening to withhold assessments until there was accountability.

When members withhold assessments, the reason why will unlikely ever be considered if it's taken to court. This is because the member has a contractual agreement (the CC&Rs) to pay the Assessments and in return the Association agrees to maintain the commons and perhaps provide specific services. Since the Association will likely continue to maintain the commons and provide the services, a court would see someone who withheld assessment payments as the one's being in breach of the contract.

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