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RalphH2 (Arizona)
Posts: 12
Posted:
Our age 55+ community has an exercise facility with the only requirement for use is to have a valid HOA ID and to sign-in before using the equipment or joining a fitness exercise class. Yesterday one of residents (age 76) had a massive heart attack while exercising and died. It never has been the practice to require anyone first to sign a liability release form or answer a questionnaire about their health or provide a signed medical waiver from a physician, if necessary. There is a notice that states in part:

"All persons using equipment at the Fitness Center do so at their own risk... Users are advised to read and understand all posted notices regarding equipment usage, sign-in procedures, and the risks associated with such usage. HOA is not liable for injuries incurred while using Fitness Center equipment. Users are advised to consult their physician or fitness specialist."

Should we have concern that our HOA still could be liable for not having users first sign a waiver, complete a questionnaire about their health or provide a signed medical waiver from a physician, if necessary and do so regularly as they get older? Or is "All persons using equipment at the Fitness Center do so at their own risk", sufficent?
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
I would think that your warnings are sufficient but I'm not an attorney. Will it keep you from being sued? Probably not but it should help with the defense if you are. You really need to check with a legal professional i.e. HOA's attorney or your insurer might have tips to help.

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JayP3 (Florida)
Posts: 154
Posted:
A lot of liabilty questions these days.

No you are not liable for a heart attack.

If a machine broke and caused injury, maming, or death that would be another story if it could be shown that maintenance was at fault but acts of God or misuse is not to be worried about.

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
I would agree with the above responses that there is no likely liability for a person having a heart attack while using exercise equipment. I am assuming that there was no HOA trainer pushing the guy to exercise harder.

Collecting medical information about your residents is a bad idea due to problems with keeping it private. I would avoid doing anything that would put the association in a position where it appears it is making medical decisions.

The law recognizes "assumtion of risk." Your notice sounds reasonable.
FredS7 (Arizona)
Posts: 927
Posted:
There is no way to totally avoid liability. In the US you can sue anyone for anything and it seems that lawyers will typically sue everyone involved or even potentially involved.

However. It seems to me that there is more risk in doing more to control access. If you have a questionaire- how do you decide if there are enough or serious enough medical issues to matter? In an over-55 community almost everyone will have something to be concerned about. I think the HOA is better off with a broad disclaimer making it the responsibility of the user.

Of course you could renovate, remove the equipment, and duct-tape foam rubber to all the surfaces...

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
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Posted By FredS7 on 06/11/2012 6:54 AM

It seems to me that there is more risk in doing more to control access. If you have a questionaire- how do you decide if there are enough or serious enough medical issues to matter? In an over-55 community almost everyone will have something to be concerned about. I think the HOA is better off with a broad disclaimer making it the responsibility of the user.

Agree. In this case the user mistakenly decided he was fit enough to use the equipment. If the association made that same decision based on his medical records you could expect to find a process server knocking on your door. The person who takes control is liable for the outcome.

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