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StewartG1 (Florida)
Posts: 15
Posted:
This is a real problem for us,obviously an H.O.A. retains a lawyer to watch their back,but his interpratation of the Florida Statute does not appear to have foundation.
It is really quite simple,all we want to do is change slightly our electionj procedures for the board to stop what we saw last year as "rule bending"
In essence we want to change the Bye laws to insist that nominations are in before the AGM thus giving us chance to check the eligibility,so no nominations from the floor,we also want to insist that Proxies are mailed in prior to the election for the same purpose,checking eligibility,our lawyer thinks one cannot go with the other thus not allowing nominations from the floor means we have to do mail in secret ballots,from our point of view thats very expensive and there does not seem to be any foundation for this advise in the Flroida statutes.
Can anyone help please?
PeterD3 (Florida)
Posts: 708
Posted:

Stewart,

I don't know what an "AGM" is.

[Some of] The 'changes' you posted that are proposed to your ByLaws are not permitted under current FL laws.

The annual members meeting (specific location, date & time) is where ALL proxies are counted along with attendees to determine if a quorum is present. ONLY if a quorum is present can elections be conducted.

Additionally Florida law ASSURES nominations from the floor.

Your HOA should have adequate documents to 'check eligibility' at the meeting.

Perhaps further research is required.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Stewart,

Just like the members of this forum, every attorney has their own opinion. It's up to the client to decide how much of that opinion they will follow.

Expecting that your Association is incorporated as a nonprofit (most are), they will need to comply with Florida Not For Profit Corporation Act in addition to FL 720 - Homeowners Associations or Condominium Act (which ever is applicable).

Per 720.306 Emphasis added:

(9)(a) ELECTIONS AND BOARD VACANCIES.—Elections of directors must be conducted in accordance with the procedures set forth in the governing documents of the association. All members of the association are eligible to serve on the board of directors, and a member may nominate himself or herself as a candidate for the board at a meeting where the election is to be held or, if the election process allows voting by absentee ballot, in advance of the balloting. Except as otherwise provided in the governing documents, boards of directors must be elected by a plurality of the votes cast by eligible voters.

As you know, I am not an attorney and I do not work within the legal profession. The word following the bolded section is "OR". This would indicate to me that in order to avoid nominations from the floor, the Association would have to adopt voting by mail procedures to allow absentee voting in advance of the meeting.

Without the advance absentee voting, the law prohibits the association from denying a member to nominate themselves at the meeting held to elect directors.

Based on my interpretation of this section, you attorney's advice was correct. They were just not able to explain the basis of their advice.

Hope this helps,

Tim

TM4 (Florida)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Our elections are supposed to be by secret ballot, and ballots can be sent out prior to the meeting, but our atty. said we must take nominations from the floor as well. This is confusing.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
TM4,

Yep it is confusing. Additionally, as I posted earlier, every attorney has their own opinion. It's up to the client to decide how much of that opinion they will follow.

It could be that your attorney is erring on the side of caution and including both clauses. It would certainly minimize the legal challenges but it can cause more confusion.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
All

I know at my last HOA, we had the management company at our Annual Meeting attend to aid us and we were prepared to check the qualifications of anyone nominated from the floor right then and there.

One year we had a resident nominate himself and we could find any record of him. Turns out he was the son of the owner. He was disqualified on the spot.

Now I would also assume if somehow a person was elected to the BOD and it later turns out he was not qualified, he could be removed.

ErickJ (New York)
Posts: 1
Posted:
Thanks for sharing the information, its really considerable.
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