JoanR (North Carolina)
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I’m in a NC development under Declarant control until 2015 or until no Class C members. I’ve attached a section of our governing documents outlining membership and voting rights. There are three neighborhoods in the development that share common amenities being a 10-acre pond, clubhouse and pool. Total build out is 130 residences of which there are 45 completed now, several are in foreclosure. Two of the neighborhoods have SF homes and the third has SF and 2-unit TH. The neighborhood with THs has higher annual dues that include lawn landscape maintenance of their individual lots.
We have had numerous problems including a tax bill that went into collections for our pond, pool and clubhouse that has not been deeded to the HOA. The problem looming in front of us now is that the lawn care company has not been paid and will no longer care for the lawns in the neighborhood where this is part of the assessment. They are owed for 18 months of service that included the lawns for the one neighborhood and common areas for all three neighborhoods. In 2011 the Declarant decided his staff from another business would care for the common areas and he would contract with the same lawn care company for the private lawns, but through a contract listing him personally and not the HOA. He paid three months. The lawn care company owner felt sorry for the residents and continued to only mow the lawns the remainder of 2011. So our services were minimal. Now the lawn care company said they will not maintain the lawns unless they are paid for the 18 months and the remainder of the contract for 2011 which is understandable. An agent for the Declarant suggested at our annual meeting that “we” contract individually for the lawn care and have an amendment drafted and approved by an attorney that he would present to the Declarant. If the Declarant agrees, we can have it recorded and that will release us from that portion of our assessment.
Most of us that bought in this particular neighborhood did so to ensure all lawns would be cared for and with the same frequency. It would be nice to try to maintain at least a small portion of the integrity of the concept we were sold. I don’t see any way that a group can force all of the owners in this neighborhood to participate and use the one vendor. The vendor’s rates are very competitive based on doing all of the lots in the neighborhood on one day vs. coming to do one home at a time.
I’ve thought of drafting an amendment and presenting it to the other owners that would make this a temporary situation until January 1, 2016 when the management of the lawn care would fall back under the responsibility of the HOA and the assessments would increase accordingly. The amendment would specify that all owners must use the existing vendor and agree to pay in 6month installments that would go into an escrow account. (The lawn care company doesn’t want to deal with tracking down payments from 19 owners. We would pay monthly.) If this was accepted, would the management company be able to enforce it? Another issue is that of the homes in this neighborhood 1/2 were to be TH, but now there will only be the 8 that are built. In the covenant for maintenance assessments it states that the lawn maintenance will be provided at a uniform rate of charge without regard to the actual cost of maintenance of the landscaping of each lot. It was a somewhat unfair distribution when there were to be 24 THs picking up the slack for the much larger SF lots, but now with only 8 TH, this would be a good time to make this a two-tier structure. TH actual charge is approx. $25/month, SF home is approx. $35/month and the additional amount in the assessment to this neighborhood is $42/month. If the amendment is not written and recorded, the residents will be obligated to pay the lawn care portion of the assessment and pay privately for lawn care.
1) I would appreciate any advice on what can be done about this situation and effective ways to work through it?
2) Would someone interpret the attachment for me? It appears to me that we have Declarant control until all lots are sold. Can the Declarant change this date the same way he has changed most everything else in the governing documents, though without amendments?
3) I have met with our County manager and Board of Commissioner about other issues before this one arose, only to be told any problems would have to be handled through a lawsuit. Our development is annexed to a town for water and sewer that is in the adjacent County. Building permits, zoning is in One County and our documents are recorded in another. Where else could we go for help other than a courtroom? Money is not plentiful with this group of owners and no one is willing to put out money for an attorney.
4) Talking with the Declarant isn’t an option. There have been financial problems since day one (started building in 2006). The Declarant is a LLC with three people who had little or no experience starting developments. I can only assume that when the housing market was strong they assumed they could get a piece of the action. One person is now deceased and the other two have had a falling out leaving only the one dealing with us through the management company. But that is not even a direct line of communication. The Declarant has not delivered services to the community and will not communicate in any manner with the residents.
5) I’ve seen posts where residents pay HOA assessments into an escrow account and do a ‘coup’. Can this be done when under Declarant control? If so, what are the dangers?
6) The community manager is also threatening to drain the pool this year and not keep it open.
Everyone would like to sell and get out of Dodge. Our homes are worth about 65% of original value and the property is very unattractive due to the lack of landscaping and maintenance. We are trying to make the best of a bad situation, but need help with our options.
Sorry for the length of the post, but we have a lot going on.
We have had numerous problems including a tax bill that went into collections for our pond, pool and clubhouse that has not been deeded to the HOA. The problem looming in front of us now is that the lawn care company has not been paid and will no longer care for the lawns in the neighborhood where this is part of the assessment. They are owed for 18 months of service that included the lawns for the one neighborhood and common areas for all three neighborhoods. In 2011 the Declarant decided his staff from another business would care for the common areas and he would contract with the same lawn care company for the private lawns, but through a contract listing him personally and not the HOA. He paid three months. The lawn care company owner felt sorry for the residents and continued to only mow the lawns the remainder of 2011. So our services were minimal. Now the lawn care company said they will not maintain the lawns unless they are paid for the 18 months and the remainder of the contract for 2011 which is understandable. An agent for the Declarant suggested at our annual meeting that “we” contract individually for the lawn care and have an amendment drafted and approved by an attorney that he would present to the Declarant. If the Declarant agrees, we can have it recorded and that will release us from that portion of our assessment.
Most of us that bought in this particular neighborhood did so to ensure all lawns would be cared for and with the same frequency. It would be nice to try to maintain at least a small portion of the integrity of the concept we were sold. I don’t see any way that a group can force all of the owners in this neighborhood to participate and use the one vendor. The vendor’s rates are very competitive based on doing all of the lots in the neighborhood on one day vs. coming to do one home at a time.
I’ve thought of drafting an amendment and presenting it to the other owners that would make this a temporary situation until January 1, 2016 when the management of the lawn care would fall back under the responsibility of the HOA and the assessments would increase accordingly. The amendment would specify that all owners must use the existing vendor and agree to pay in 6month installments that would go into an escrow account. (The lawn care company doesn’t want to deal with tracking down payments from 19 owners. We would pay monthly.) If this was accepted, would the management company be able to enforce it? Another issue is that of the homes in this neighborhood 1/2 were to be TH, but now there will only be the 8 that are built. In the covenant for maintenance assessments it states that the lawn maintenance will be provided at a uniform rate of charge without regard to the actual cost of maintenance of the landscaping of each lot. It was a somewhat unfair distribution when there were to be 24 THs picking up the slack for the much larger SF lots, but now with only 8 TH, this would be a good time to make this a two-tier structure. TH actual charge is approx. $25/month, SF home is approx. $35/month and the additional amount in the assessment to this neighborhood is $42/month. If the amendment is not written and recorded, the residents will be obligated to pay the lawn care portion of the assessment and pay privately for lawn care.
1) I would appreciate any advice on what can be done about this situation and effective ways to work through it?
2) Would someone interpret the attachment for me? It appears to me that we have Declarant control until all lots are sold. Can the Declarant change this date the same way he has changed most everything else in the governing documents, though without amendments?
3) I have met with our County manager and Board of Commissioner about other issues before this one arose, only to be told any problems would have to be handled through a lawsuit. Our development is annexed to a town for water and sewer that is in the adjacent County. Building permits, zoning is in One County and our documents are recorded in another. Where else could we go for help other than a courtroom? Money is not plentiful with this group of owners and no one is willing to put out money for an attorney.
4) Talking with the Declarant isn’t an option. There have been financial problems since day one (started building in 2006). The Declarant is a LLC with three people who had little or no experience starting developments. I can only assume that when the housing market was strong they assumed they could get a piece of the action. One person is now deceased and the other two have had a falling out leaving only the one dealing with us through the management company. But that is not even a direct line of communication. The Declarant has not delivered services to the community and will not communicate in any manner with the residents.
5) I’ve seen posts where residents pay HOA assessments into an escrow account and do a ‘coup’. Can this be done when under Declarant control? If so, what are the dangers?
6) The community manager is also threatening to drain the pool this year and not keep it open.
Everyone would like to sell and get out of Dodge. Our homes are worth about 65% of original value and the property is very unattractive due to the lack of landscaping and maintenance. We are trying to make the best of a bad situation, but need help with our options.
Sorry for the length of the post, but we have a lot going on.
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