MichaelS41 (California)
Posts: 9
Posts: 9
Posted:
We have an issue with our normally-peaceful, well-run HOA which could turn into a bit of an issue, and I'd like to get some perspectives from other HOA boards as far as how they handle these issues.
Here are the facts:
1) Last month at our regular board meeting, there was not a quorum. However we had an annual meeting and board election coming up; the property management rep asked our president for clarification in the language of the mail-in ballot as far as the proper method for submitting such ballots and voting in general. Because the meeting was coming up so soon, the rep could not wait for another meeting to have a quorum in order to get a decision. At the direction of the president, the mail-in ballot was sent out with language clearly specifying that such ballots had to be either delivered in person to the management company prior to the annual meeting or by mail; no other delivery method would be acceptable and votes delivered in such a manner would not be counted. They could not be delivered by others and mail-in ballots could not be used at the annual meeting. (Presumably, if you're already at the annual meeting you can simply vote in person) The rationale for this rule was to protect the legitimacy of the votes, as we don't try to verify mail-in ballots.
2) The mail-in ballot was sent out with such language, at least three weeks prior to the annual meeting. There were four open positions and four nominated candidates. There was not a space on the ballot for write-in candidates.
(I am presuming that this was due to space; the page was already crowded with instructions. In the previous Board election, there had been five open positions and only two nominated candidates, so there were three empty spaces on the mail-in ballot. Therefore, I am assuming that for the present Board election there was no space for a write-in simply as a result of an oversight and not a deliberate act to exclude write-ins.)
3) A candidate for the Board went around to selected homeowners and collected mail-in ballots, bundled them together and delivered them in person to the property management company.
4) A couple days prior to the annual meeting, a board member who was interested in seeing this candidate elected to the board raised the issue of why the mail-in ballots could not be submitted in this manner.
5) At the annual meeting, the Board carefully and thoughtfully deliberated this issue at length among itself and with the homeowners in attendance. A motion was made to the assembly (not just to Board members) to stick to the ballot language and only count votes which were submitted according to the previously-announced rules; no bundled mail-in votes would be counted. This motion passed. The Board also agreed that the new Board, at its next regularly-scheduled meeting, would discuss rules for future Board elections as far as how such ballots could be handled. The candidate and his allies on the Board were not pleased with the Board's motion and one of the latter has threatened to sue the Board over this.
My questions are the following:
1) what do other Boards do with regards to submission of mail-in ballots? Do they similarly restrict the method of submission? Was our Board unusual in its refusal to accept mail-in ballots not delivered by mail or the homeowner?
2) have other Boards had problems with candidates soliciting other homeowners to fill out mail-in ballots, then such candidates bundling and delivering such ballots? One thing that concerns me (perhaps unnecessarily) is the supplying of the mail-in ballot; I find it difficult to believe that all of the 30some homeowners had their mail-in ballots at hand when the candidate came to their door. I am reasonably certain the candidate photocopied the mail-in ballot and brought copies along while campaigning for votes. By 'problems', I mean issues related to the legitimacy of the mail-in ballots or the manner in which they were collected and submitted.
3) do other Boards make any efforts to verify mail-in ballots, such as having a property management rep call homeowners and verify that they submitted a mail-in ballot, whether it was mailed in or collected and submitted on their behalf by a third party?
4) do any of you see any problems with bundling and delivering mail-in ballots?
Thanks in advance for your thoughtful replies.
Here are the facts:
1) Last month at our regular board meeting, there was not a quorum. However we had an annual meeting and board election coming up; the property management rep asked our president for clarification in the language of the mail-in ballot as far as the proper method for submitting such ballots and voting in general. Because the meeting was coming up so soon, the rep could not wait for another meeting to have a quorum in order to get a decision. At the direction of the president, the mail-in ballot was sent out with language clearly specifying that such ballots had to be either delivered in person to the management company prior to the annual meeting or by mail; no other delivery method would be acceptable and votes delivered in such a manner would not be counted. They could not be delivered by others and mail-in ballots could not be used at the annual meeting. (Presumably, if you're already at the annual meeting you can simply vote in person) The rationale for this rule was to protect the legitimacy of the votes, as we don't try to verify mail-in ballots.
2) The mail-in ballot was sent out with such language, at least three weeks prior to the annual meeting. There were four open positions and four nominated candidates. There was not a space on the ballot for write-in candidates.
(I am presuming that this was due to space; the page was already crowded with instructions. In the previous Board election, there had been five open positions and only two nominated candidates, so there were three empty spaces on the mail-in ballot. Therefore, I am assuming that for the present Board election there was no space for a write-in simply as a result of an oversight and not a deliberate act to exclude write-ins.)
3) A candidate for the Board went around to selected homeowners and collected mail-in ballots, bundled them together and delivered them in person to the property management company.
4) A couple days prior to the annual meeting, a board member who was interested in seeing this candidate elected to the board raised the issue of why the mail-in ballots could not be submitted in this manner.
5) At the annual meeting, the Board carefully and thoughtfully deliberated this issue at length among itself and with the homeowners in attendance. A motion was made to the assembly (not just to Board members) to stick to the ballot language and only count votes which were submitted according to the previously-announced rules; no bundled mail-in votes would be counted. This motion passed. The Board also agreed that the new Board, at its next regularly-scheduled meeting, would discuss rules for future Board elections as far as how such ballots could be handled. The candidate and his allies on the Board were not pleased with the Board's motion and one of the latter has threatened to sue the Board over this.
My questions are the following:
1) what do other Boards do with regards to submission of mail-in ballots? Do they similarly restrict the method of submission? Was our Board unusual in its refusal to accept mail-in ballots not delivered by mail or the homeowner?
2) have other Boards had problems with candidates soliciting other homeowners to fill out mail-in ballots, then such candidates bundling and delivering such ballots? One thing that concerns me (perhaps unnecessarily) is the supplying of the mail-in ballot; I find it difficult to believe that all of the 30some homeowners had their mail-in ballots at hand when the candidate came to their door. I am reasonably certain the candidate photocopied the mail-in ballot and brought copies along while campaigning for votes. By 'problems', I mean issues related to the legitimacy of the mail-in ballots or the manner in which they were collected and submitted.
3) do other Boards make any efforts to verify mail-in ballots, such as having a property management rep call homeowners and verify that they submitted a mail-in ballot, whether it was mailed in or collected and submitted on their behalf by a third party?
4) do any of you see any problems with bundling and delivering mail-in ballots?
Thanks in advance for your thoughtful replies.