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JenniferA2 (California)
Posts: 27
Posted:
According to Davis-Sterling, board's should discuss "matters relating to the formation of contracts" in exective session. Can I get some examples of what those matters would be?

Some members of our current board feel that all voting on bids should be done in executive session because it pertains to contracts. I disagree and feel that we should vote on bids in an open meeting, then discuss proprietary information, designs, billing rates, etc. in executive session.

Thanks,

Jenn
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Jennifer,

The voting should be done in open session. The discussion of which contract is best or the pros and cons of a contract may be done in closed session. I believe that this is mainly to protect the confidentiality of the various bids. Once a contract is awarded, that contact becomes part of the record and is viewable by the membership.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
CORRECTION -

I should have looked at Create a website
">Davis-Stirling voting in Executive session page first.

Voting may be done in executive session.

In addition to the above link - here is a link to the executive session main menu page.

Tim
JenniferA2 (California)
Posts: 27
Posted:
Okay, now that makes perfect sense. Somewhere we can draw the line. Thank you.

Jenn
JenniferA2 (California)
Posts: 27
Posted:
My last comment was to Tim's first one. Now I am a little confused again.
Wouldn't the vote have to involve the release of privelaged information in order to be done in executive session?

Jenn
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
executive session is for privileged information.
Even if you vote in executive session, you need to identify the results of the vote in open session.

i.e. The Board, in executive session, voted to award the contract for abc to xyz.

Personally, I don't see a reason to vote on awarding a contract in executive session. However, according to CA law, it is allowed (see link to voting in executive sessions)

RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 1,767
Posted:
What we would do is vote on which vendor of the three we would use in executive session, and then make a motion in open session to accept the contract from abc company for xyz services.
CarolR11 (Colorado)
Posts: 2,563
Posted:
We used to conduct any business having to do with contracts in Executive Session because, following Davis-Sterling, it is permissible. But do note, Jennifer, that Davis-Sterling does not state that contract matters "should" be handled in Executive Session. I believe it says "may."

For over a year now, almost all contracts--new, renewals, etc. are discussed and voted on in open meetings in our HOA. There are a few that we've done in Executive Session, e.g., the interviews of 4 vendors for a major project that we're doing soon. In this case, we selected one in an Executive Session and announced our choice at the open meeting.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
I don't that "contracts" is a good example of the right to vote in ES. I think voting in ES would be for disciplinary or legal issues.

As far as contracts, the bids should be sealed so they are opened in ES, discussed and reviewed by each member. While all this may result in a "consensus" the real motion and vote to award a contract should be in open session. (Besides, why duplicate the vote?)

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