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TamaraS4 (California)
Posts: 21
Posted:
Hi All,

I'm new to the whole Board thing, so I apologize if this is a silly question. One of our residents has been in violation of some of our HOA rules. As per our rules, this person will be sent letters with specific deadlines to meet without being fined.

The letters are currently in the draft state, and a new resident who is not a Board member was included in the draft email so they can provide feedback and suggestions as to the content.

As this matter is between the Board and the resident, are there privacy issues that would preclude a non-Board member being included and asked for feedback on a matter that doesn't involve them directly? The topic of the letters will of course show up in the meeting minutes, I just wasn't sure if a non-member can provide assistance to the Board regarding a decision that is up to the Board.

Thank you so much!
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Your board needs to forumulate a procedure and/or letters regarding this issue and have them on file to send to ANYONE who is behind in payments. Then the next step needs formulating, etc. etc.

So if you have a committee that is drafting these letters, then having a non board person involved is OK.
TamaraS4 (California)
Posts: 21
Posted:
Hi Susan,

We don't have a committee. We have sent letters to other residents before, but don't follow a template. We are a small complex and it's rare for a non-member to even show up at a meeting. At this particular meeting, the person was asked for input on how to handle the letters, and then one of the Board members said they would be included on the email so as to offer suggestions on the letters.

It just doesn't seem right that someone not involved in the decision making process should be included in something that does not involve them. I'm sure the person in question would probably be embarrassed to find out a non-Board member was asked for input.

It was not a Board decision to include the new resident, one of the Board members arbitrarily made the decision on her own.
DavidW5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 565
Posted:
If the draft letters contain specific information like the name of an individual and how much they owe, then it was not proper for a non-board member to see the letters. It was also not proper for a single board member to provide the letters to someone not involved. If your board felt it wasn't up to the task of composing the letters, then they should have had the association attorney draft them.

As mentioned earlier, it is good policy to have standard letters already prepared to cover these types of notifications so that it can be demonstrated, if necessary, that any violators are treated the same way.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Anyone who can contribute relevant information to the issue at hand may be invited into an executive session. It's the boards decision to include them or not.

Based on what you posted, I am unclear if this individual is involved with the issue (witness, enforcement committee, etc.) that might cause them to be included in the conversation or not.

Tim

TamaraS4 (California)
Posts: 21
Posted:
Hi TimB4,

I always appreciate your insight. This was not an executive session, it was a regular board meeting.

The person involved joined our community well after the topic became an issue. This person was not a witness and we have no enforcement committee, so there is no reason for this person to be included other than one long time resident/board member inviting them. This is the first time a non board member has been included in a situation like this and it's not the first time a resident has been in violation of our R&Rs.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Ok. Were the letters part of an e-mail discussion where the individual was included or did the individual attend a board meeting where they were discussed?
TamaraS4 (California)
Posts: 21
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By TimB4 on 09/25/2011 9:49 PM
Ok. Were the letters part of an e-mail discussion where the individual was included or did the individual attend a board meeting where they were discussed?

No. This person tried to address the issues via email and also asked the board to delay the discussion to the next meeting since they were unable to attend, but the board dis-regarded the requests and went ahead and discussed the issues at the meeting and did not respond to the individual's questions via email. The resident sent an email asking for more information weeks before the meeting, but no one responded. Our secretary sent an email to the board members asking how we should respond to the inquiry, but no one even answered.

This is why it's an odd situation. The person in question has no idea the new person is involved, and the board has never involved anyone else in prior situations regarding violations.

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
The board can request or accept input from anyone on any subject as the board members see fit.

I'm not aware of any rights to privacy that are afforded to those who have been accused of violating the HOA's rules.

You should, however, be concerned that your board is apparently discussing and deciding on a course of action via email. Making decisions outside of a regular meeting is improper. If there really was a privacy issue, proper procedure would be to discuss it in an executive session at a regular meeting, not in secret online meetings and emails.

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