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VickiC1 (Texas)
Posts: 36
Posted:
I found out that at the intial meeting of my new HOA Board at the end of August--when they elected officers--one of the new directors spoke very negatively against myself and my neighbor...by name

We are two people (of several) who were very critical of the former board and agitated for a new election after a tainted June annual election and a subsequent July election to remedy that was cancelled by the outgoing Board--mainly the President who manipulated information and other Board members' opinions in special session where they basically elected themselves...
We did this with emails to other HOA members and conversations and one or two small meetings within the HOA...

My neighbor who is new on the Board said that he called us "terrorists" among other denegrating comments...
She was the only Board member who told him that was inappropriate--and not to do it again...
I appreciated her taking up for us--
but the Board President (which she is not)should have shut him down right away--

He has a right to his personal opinon of me--but he is not IN his personal persona when he is at Board meeting...he can't act/talk like he would drinking beers with the boys

When he was campaigning for people's votes, he also told the guy who is building the crooked house on my culdesac that the "neighbors" were so upset about how his house looked that we might vandalize it...and I think now he might have used my name specifically...although I can't prove it.
The guy bulding the house asked our mutual next-door-neighbor if they had to install security cameras or have security fence put up to protect their (crooked) house from vandalism--and she said of course not...and he didn't--we are not stupid or criminals...

but we don't like his house--and frankly we don't like him very much either at this point...

But vandalize his house--get real...
Both of them are idiots...the guy who trashed us at the Board meeting is afraid of germ warfare, has a safe room in his house--a big one--and set up cameras to patrol the area on his street even before his house was finished...so people who aren't his friend consider he is little off..he got elected because the developer of our subdivision still owns 13 lots and his votes pushed him into winning territory at the election...

What type of behavior rules has that guy crossed by speaking like that about us--to other Board members in session?

I read the minutes of that meeting and his comments are not there of course...
but it makes me so angry that he made them and was not censured by the Board as a whole--to me it means he is bully like the last Board president and he will be a bully to get what he wants accomplished...and they likely will cave to him...

Making personal castigations about HOA members is not the purpose of Board meetings--
But if I make known at future Board meetings or by writing to individual Board members that I know what he said then I get my neighbor in trouble with the other Board members who wil know she is the source of my info...

The irony is that one of the new Board members is someone who complained to me that some comments made about him by people on "my" side of the neighborhood issues were not true--that people were "misrepresenting" him and his POV. I called him on it--said what I had said about our conversations--and basically I did defend him to others who were more critical...but no one called HIM a terrorist...just a wimp...and I guess since he did not take up for me then he is one...

Any suggestions for how to keep the Board from dealing in personalities and make them step up their behavior and comments?
Even if meetings are open--they are going to be communicating to each other away from public view/censure...
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
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Posted By VickiC1 on 09/20/2011 9:59 PM

What type of behavior rules has that guy crossed by speaking like that about us--to other Board members in session?

There are written rules on how a board members behave. The only rules would be the unspoken civil rules of society.

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Posted By VickiC1 on 09/20/2011 9:59 PM

Any suggestions for how to keep the Board from dealing in personalities and make them step up their behavior and comments?

Honestly, it will only come from peer pressure. Depending on the individual, they might never change the way they behave.

Since you stated that you were part of the group that stirred up the membership to correct things within your Association, you should have expected that you would ruffle some feathers. Some people can let this roll off them and some can not. There is nothing you can do to make them change.

If you ever believe that the individual is doing more than blowing off steam and you feel threatened by them, you should contact the police.

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Posted By VickiC1 on 09/20/2011 9:59 PM

Even if meetings are open--they are going to be communicating to each other away from public view/censure...

Everyone is entitled to communicate away from public view. My Board sends reports and proposals prior to meetings to minimize the length of meetings. You should really only be concerned if the Board starts making decisions outside of a board meeting.

The fact that the meeting minutes didn't contain a members comments is typical. Minutes should reflect the actions and main discussion points. They should not be a verbatim of who said what.

I'm sorry to hear that your going through the things you are. Heck, I've still got one previous board member I caused issues for when I was doing an information campaign to the membership three years ago who (I believe) still writes "NEVER" next to my name on their ballot. Try and laugh it off. The problem is theirs not yours.

VickiC1 (Texas)
Posts: 36
Posted:
I conside the source--and I am not worried that he does not like me...but I do worry that as a group who supposedly was going to "heal" the neighborhood and created a unified community once more, that none of the others told him to shut up...
Like you said--Peer Pressure is the only thing that works...
Maybe they think he was a jerk--even if they might agree that I am a trouble maker...
if they don't tell him to behave he will continue to act that way...AND he is just a bully...Having a bully on a board is trouble...one way or the other...
The Board meetings are being held in an office building that he owns and runs his business out of that is close to our neighborhood...
so they don't have to pay a fee or schedule time at the public library or the city rec center...
that way they "owe" him for letting them use his location and it plays into his view of himself as a "hero"
He describes himself on some websites as an Indiana Jones from "Raiders of the Lost Ark" because his work takes him out of the country in some pretty exotic locations investigating unusual medical/drug ingredients...legally...

I understand about the minutes--but if you read them you get very clean, professional account--not necessarily accurate though...

The problem is mine and the HOA in general because this man is friend of the former developer of the subdivision who controls 14 lots and thus 14 votes at any election...so he is force to be reckoned with...
The problem is not how he feels about me per se--but how he feels about anyone who does not agree with him and his point of view...
He is not going to have an open mind about anything I propose or even support...so if I think that speaking out will mean detremental to what I support--I can't really speak out...
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Speak to whomever is presiding over these meetings. That person has the power to stop any comment and should get control of the meeting.

Those kinds of personal attacks are inappropriate at meetings - but then again, perhaps if you stopped talking about things, it might stop the festering.

Watch what they do, not what they say.

DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Vicki,

I am going to echo what Susan said. Remember the "sticks and stones" saying that we always used as kids? This is the same type of behavior.

Number 1, The President needs to make a statement on professional behavior will be the only mode of all meetings. All of the hearsay is unproductive to accomplishing anything, no matter where or what. You must also move on, forget this behavior and start getting issues fixed rather than banter back and forth. From your post, I was not sure what we are addressing other than some boorish clown on the Board trash talking. MR. PRESIDENT!!, TAKE CONTROL.

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