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DennisO (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Our management company is not renewing our contract due to cost issues. They have served us with the contracted 30 day notice. We are negotiating with a new management company to replace the current and it looks like a good deal. My question is: Is it necessary to go out for multiple bids(Is there a state law?)or can we(the Board)just go ahead and contract the new Management Company. His proposal is well within the monies budgeted for a Management Company...DennisO
RonaldW (South Carolina)
Posts: 901
Posted:
I don't know about a state law, but just to keep your membership from thinking there may be something "fishy" going on, I would gt two other bids if possible.

Unlike bidding on lumber, plumbing fixtures, etc., it's pretty hard to define management services so references from other HOAs should be considered along with cost.

Ron
SC
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
don't know every state law, but I doubt there are many that require a private company to get multiple bids before spending money. that would be anti-capitalistic, and excessively regulatory.

However, states have laws that regulate how much companies can sell products for, how much profit they must make on a sale, and who they can and cannot sell to, so... it's possible.
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
Dennis:

I doubt there is any law. Usually the only time you here of that is when you are spending tax payer money as a state or city municipality. However, I do think it would be in your best interest to do so. If this management company knows you are only negotiating with them I doubt they are giving you your best price. Competition doesn't hurt anything, and it is amazing how some companies are able to sharpen their pencils a bit when they know a competitor is involved. And as someone else stated, it shows your membership there is nothing fishy going on.
RonaldW (South Carolina)
Posts: 901
Posted:
Posted By BrianB on 01/06/2007 7:50 AM

don't know every state law, but I doubt there are many that require a private company to get multiple bids before spending money. that would be anti-capitalistic, and excessively regulatory.

However, states have laws that regulate how much companies can sell products for, how much profit they must make on a sale, and who they can and cannot sell to, so... it's possible.


There are often accusations against HOAs that they give business to friends, relatives, etc. Soliciting bids avoids the possibility of this.


Ron
SC
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
i agree Ron, it is the smart thing to do. But required by state law? not sure.

I would not be surprised to find some state that had a law saying you must get multiple bids, as well as a law saying it was illegal to get multiple bids. With the number of laws in this country, i believe anything you do is probably illegal somewhere, somehow, to someone. Your advice to do the smart thing and get a couple bids, do some research, document the board's hiring decision, etc. is the wisest thing. at least then you can demonstrate you tried.

JohnR4 (Arizona)
Posts: 29
Posted:
You can accept your current bidder as an interm mgmt. co and still go to bid. I highly suggest you do. It is reasonable to do so and generally accepted business practice to have more than one bidder. If you do not get more bids you will not be able to effectively compare the vendors services, and price. You will not have a good response when someone in the community objects to this. You will not enjoy the cost savings that you may incorage the vendors to provide you under a copetitive bid. We had a landscape contract that was put in place by a previous board without competiive bidding @$140,000 when it came time to renew the vendor raised to $175,000. At that point I demanded that it go to bid, and it was a fight, but when the smoke cleared we had a new vendor @$109,000 who has for the last three years done a superioir job. $66,000 x 3yrs = $198,000 and thats some real money to use twards other projects !!! GO TO COMPETITIVE BID, IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND IT MAY SAVE YOU THE BIG BUCKS YOU NEEDED TO INHANCE YOUR COMMINITY.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
For new projects I agree that competitive biding is the way to go but lowest bid is not always the best. We've had the same pool company for 15 years same cleaning company for six and four for the landscaper. We have received lower bids on some of these items from other companies but we are happy with the ones we have. We're not talking thousands lower four or five hundred but the extras we get from the venders because they know we're not going to dump them for someone who's a nickel cheaper more than makes up in the long run for any difference in price.

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JohnR4 (Arizona)
Posts: 29
Posted:
Low bids should allways be very carefully and cautiously considered before they are accepted. The old saying "you get what you pay for" is usually absolutely true. There has to be a reason one vendor can do the same job for less. One obvious solution from the vendors perspective is to not do the same job. Cutting corners to make the low -ball figure that gets the attention of the BOD is risky for both the communinty and you as a board member.
RonaldW (South Carolina)
Posts: 901
Posted:
Posted By GlenL on 01/19/2007 10:54 PM

For new projects I agree that competitive biding is the way to go but lowest bid is not always the best. We've had the same pool company for 15 years same cleaning company for six and four for the landscaper. We have received lower bids on some of these items from other companies but we are happy with the ones we have. We're not talking thousands lower four or five hundred but the extras we get from the venders because they know we're not going to dump them for someone who's a nickel cheaper more than makes up in the long run for any difference in price.


I agree that the lowest bidder is not always the best. That's the company that's going to cut corners or use unskilled employees. The chance of a problem comes when the neighborhood "troublemaker" stands up at the membership meeting and accuses the board of favoritism or not spending association funds wisely. Just be ready with your justification.


Ron
SC
JohnR4 (Arizona)
Posts: 29
Posted:
I think that it is an unfortunately true fact that many times specific vendors are shown favoritism by members who know them, and are awarded contracts based on the who you know factor. I believe that this is due to the fact that many board members do not come from a business managment background. We have had an issue in our community involving a landscape contractor that used to reside in our community and has friends here. This issue has been traced back almost 8 years now, and has been an ongoing battle within the community. This attachment to community members resulted in our community spending more for sevices than necessary, and the inability of the prop. mgmt. to inforce the contract. While it initially seems like a good idea to hire vendors that reside in the community, in practice it has turned out to be very, very, bad idea. The additional emotional connection between a vendor and the members is counter productive, and it opens up the possibility of things going wrong.

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