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TinaT2 (Washington)
Posts: 3
Posted:

Background: We live in a 30-unit cohousing governed by a board of directors with CC&R’s/by-laws and an architectural review process. This process requires that construction plans go through a review process so all community members can comment, objections can be heard, and building codes followed before approval. Cohousing communities are different than typical condominiums. Residents are more committed to living as a community. The physical design encourages social contact and individual space. Our community has private, single-dwelling homes and access to common areas such as forested greenbelt, a playground, and common house.

We purchased a lot in 2001 and built a home which went through the community’s required architectural review process. We accommodated all the requests for changes to our original plans – which included completely redesigning our home. In the last few years, unfortunately, the architectural process has been ignored by some residents in spite of community complaints.

Here are some examples:

A non-permitted, unsafe home was constructed. During the ARC review a neighbor listed a full page of concerns which was completely ignored. Fortunately, the county building inspector eventually came through the neighborhood, saw the building, and required the owner to make modifications.

Recently, an owner constructed a wooden trash receptacle on community property without Board or community feedback. They refuse to remove it.

Our neighbor (the same one who built the wooden trash receptacle) built a trellis violating county building code height and set back requirements. There was no ARC review, we just woke up and there it was! When I contacted ARC, the response was the neighbors were just “were just following a precedent of disregarding this (ARC) policy” and that the fence (which tops 11”) is “art.” The Board said that the issue with our neighbor was one of “personal conflict” and was not their responsibility.

A garage was built without proper setbacks, county permitting, or architectural review.

We purchased and built a home in this neighborhood with the understanding that the Architectural process would apply equally to all residents. We are concerned because some of the above examples affect the property values of our home. We don’t know what will be allowed to be built next.

What can we do? We love living in our neighborhood – but are very frustrated. We've been complaining for years. How can I get the Board and all residents in the Community to understand the potential ramifications of these decisions? How can we get residents to stop building on community property; to follow the county permitting process, and to go through the required ARC procedure. What steps should we take at this point? Any suggestions or recommendations are greatly appreciated. Are there any books or articles expressly detailing the responsibility of the board and architectural committee?

Thank you.
Tina

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Here are some pertinent sections from our community’s legal documents:

CC&R’s:
11.12 Common Element Alterations. Nothing shall be altered or constructed in, or (except for
an Owner's personal property) removed from, the Common Element except upon the written
consent of the Board and after procedures required herein or by law.

Architectural Review Procedure:
The responsibilities of the Architectural Guidance Committee (referred to as "the Architectural Review Committee" in the Bylaws, and in this document as "the AGC ") are:
To fulfill the Board's obligation to review and provide written approval for all Community and individual construction plans prior to construction, as specified in the CC&Rs and amendments.
1. The formal review process begins long before any plans are ready to submit to the County. The plan and site review process has the following goals:
1. Provide all Community members the opportunity to review and comment on plans;
2. Insure that suggestions, concerns and issues raised in the Community review are dealt with in a fair and timely manner;
2. After AGC approval, a copy of proposed structure plans shall be posted, including site plan (showing propane tank if any, driveways and drain field areas, and all other elements that substantially impact the natural state of the site) and building plan (including floor plan, elevations from all directions, notes on exterior elements such as color and siding). Following is a formal timetable:
1. Unit Owners post plans for 10 days in the place designated by the AGC. A separate sheet for comments and a pencil or pen should be attached to the plans. The Community shall make comments anonymously or signed, or give comments in person.
2. After the plans have been posted for 10 days, the AGC shall hold a plan review meeting and consider the comments, advice, and input. If revisions are deemed appropriate they shall be submitted to the Unit Owner who will then either incorporate them or negotiate with the AGC. Revised plans will be posted for the required time and again considered by the AGC along with any new comments or input. Usually changes at this stage are minor, particularly if the plans have been worked on in consultation with the AGC from an early time.
3. When all the needed changes have been incorporated and the plan approved by the AGC, the plans may be submitted to the County for a building permit. One copy of the plans will be kept in the AGC files.
4. Should the AGC and the Unit Owner not be able to come to agreement on the plans, the Unit Owner may choose to take the issues to the Board for resolution.
5. Changes that affect the site layout or exterior or any elements on the Community revision list must be approved by the AGC.

KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
If the "art" and the other construction was not properly permitted or built to code, call your county inspectors and have them visit. You won't need HOA approval to do that.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Hi Tina,

Lots of questions. Here is my take on them:

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Posted By TinaT2 on 08/31/2011 4:43 PM

What can we do? [to have the covenants enforced]

The easiest method is to serve on the Board or the approval committee for the changes. This way you can fairly enforce the covenants.

The hardest (and I suspect the worst) would be to take the Association to court to force them to enforce the covenants. This would cost a lot of money, require a lot of time and energy and, to be honest, probably cause hate and discontent within the community.

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Posted By TinaT2 on 08/31/2011 4:43 PM

We love living in our neighborhood – but are very frustrated. We've been complaining for years. How can I get the Board and all residents in the Community to understand the potential ramifications of these decisions?

Start an educational process. Perhaps host an informational meeting (or meetings) and invite guest speakers (realtors, city/county officials, etc.) to discuss how Associations work, what the members rights are, etc.. You could also start writing articles for the Association newsletter or start one of your own.

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Posted By TinaT2 on 08/31/2011 4:43 PM

How can we get residents to stop building on community property; to follow the county permitting process, and to go through the required ARC procedure. What steps should we take at this point?

This is the function of the Board. However, perhaps the Board doesn't have time to do the enforcement but would be willing to support someone who volunteers to do that job. perhaps you can offer your time and energy.

As for issues concerning the lack of county permits, contact the county.

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Posted By TinaT2 on 08/31/2011 4:43 PM

Are there any books or articles expressly detailing the responsibility of the board and architectural committee?

The responsibility and specific duties should be within your governing documents. Here are some additional links that might help:

Farifax County VA Community Association Manual. Although it's written based on VA laws, it still provides a good, plain language, example on how associations should be ran.

Washington State Chapter Community Associations Institute should have additional resources specific to Washington State

Hope this helps,

Tim
TinaT2 (Washington)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Thanks for the responses. We aren't interested in suing, we just want this to stop.
I appreciate the feedback!
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By TinaT2 on 08/31/2011 4:43 PM

We are concerned because some of the above examples affect the property values of our home.

Just what evidence do you have that any of the examples you mention have lowered the value of your property? Did you have an appraisal that showed your home would be worth more if it were not for the alleged violations? Did the county assessor lower your taxes? Did you take a deduction on your income taxes for the loss in value of your property? I am curious as to the source of your belief that the economic value of your property has been diminished. Are you also claiming that your property will increase in economic value if all of the alleged violations are corrected? Will you then ask the county assessor to raise your taxes due to the increased value? Will you show the windfall as income on your tax returns?

Why are you not willing to sue? You claim that the alleged violations are causing damage and it appears that your HOA is not sympathetic to your cause. Why is it that you find these alleged violations to be causing such serious damage to you that you are willing to complain to your HOA for years without apparent success yet you do not find it worth having your day in court?

Quite frankly, to me you sound like someone who spends entirely too much time trying to mind everybody else's business. You see violations that no one else seems to notice or care about and you expect a third party -- your HOA -- to fight your battles for you. If the violations you cite are damaging your property's economic value and your HOA and neighbors are unconcerned, your refusal to seek justice speaks volumes as to the merits of your allegations.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Suing your HOA is suing yourself and your neighbors. A HOA should manage itself by it's owners. If things are neglected or in violation, it's because of an internal problem with ALL the members/owners. No need in going to an outside source if it's something that can be controlled from within. The option for violations is for the owner to remove it on their own. If they refuse, the HOA can pay someone to remove it at the owner's expense. If that owner refuses to pay that bill, the HOA can levy a lien against the owner for that amount owed plus legal fees.

A lawsuit is pretty much useless in a HOA. That's because just like a lien, it's just a COURT JUDGEMENT. However, with a lien an owner can NOT sell their property until they pay the lien. A lawsuit judgement allows the owner to move and maybe never pay the money owed for years if ever. A judgement from a lawsuit has an expiration date unless it's renewed. How many BOD members 7 - 10 years from now will remember a judgement is still out there to be collected to renew it?

In our HOA, if there is no ACC, then the BOD makes the approval. Even if there was an ACC, the BOD can overrule their decision. There's no real requirement to have an ACC unless that is all your HOA really has. Otherwise, the BOD can take over that responsibility.

It's most likely too late for the older violations but a chance to improve the process from now on. Take this oportunity to improve on the mistakes previously made....

Former HOA President
TinaT2 (Washington)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Just what evidence do you have that any of the examples you mention have lowered the value of your property? Did you have an appraisal that showed your home would be worth more if it were not for the alleged violations?

==No, we have not had an appraisal, but our neighbor recently did, and we are curious to see the results.

Did the county assessor lower your taxes?
== Yes

I am curious as to the source of your belief that the economic value of your property has been diminished.
==I’d be happy to privately send you a picture of one of the ARC violations– it’s worth a thousand words….

Why are you not willing to sue? You claim that the alleged violations are causing damage and it appears that your HOA is not sympathetic to your cause. Why is it that you find these alleged violations to be causing such serious damage to you that you are willing to complain to your HOA for years without apparent success yet you do not find it worth having your day in court?

==We live in a cohousing community which emphasizes relationships. We have close friends and we would never consider suing our friends to recover money from our losses. We don’t want a day in court – but we don’t want to lose any more money, either. We simply want the CC&R’s enforced as we assumed they would be when we built our home -- isn't that the responsibility of the HOA and ARC? There are other residents who are concerned (in fact, many of the owners) but quite frankly, they are intimidated by a few who are very vocally critical – it’s almost a bully situation.

You seem very familiar with this subject. Now that you a better idea of our situation, perhaps you have some productive suggestions which would be helpful. Thanks in advance.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Apparently you have a weak board. Get on the board.
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MelissaP1 on 09/01/2011 2:28 AM
Suing your HOA is suing yourself and your neighbors. A HOA should manage itself by it's owners. If things are neglected or in violation, it's because of an internal problem with ALL the members/owners. No need in going to an outside source if it's something that can be controlled from within. The option for violations is for the owner to remove it on their own. If they refuse, the HOA can pay someone to remove it at the owner's expense. If that owner refuses to pay that bill, the HOA can levy a lien against the owner for that amount owed plus legal fees.

A lawsuit is pretty much useless in a HOA. That's because just like a lien, it's just a COURT JUDGEMENT. However, with a lien an owner can NOT sell their property until they pay the lien. A lawsuit judgement allows the owner to move and maybe never pay the money owed for years if ever. A judgement from a lawsuit has an expiration date unless it's renewed. How many BOD members 7 - 10 years from now will remember a judgement is still out there to be collected to renew it?

In our HOA, if there is no ACC, then the BOD makes the approval. Even if there was an ACC, the BOD can overrule their decision. There's no real requirement to have an ACC unless that is all your HOA really has. Otherwise, the BOD can take over that responsibility.

It's most likely too late for the older violations but a chance to improve the process from now on. Take this oportunity to improve on the mistakes previously made....

I don't know how Alabama works but you can place a lien on property and garnish wages in Kansas with a court judgement. I agree that suing is not the first line of defense but does have its place at times.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
We can do that in Alabama too. You just have to have their social security number. Which believe it or not is not necessarily information at hand. The paperwork will have name, address, phone number and etc.. It does NOT have one's social security number. Which is the key to being able to pursue garnishment of wages or taking of an item to sell. Just a word of caution...

Former HOA President
JenniferM10 (Illinois)
Posts: 97
Posted:
Just a thought... it also requires the home owner is employed.

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