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JoshR (Tennessee)
Posts: 5
Posted:
For the past 3 summers now, our swimming pool has been closing from 5-7pm (Monday thru Thursday) to allow "our" swimteam to practice. They are also allowed to practice in the mornings, they just don't want to have to get out of bed early like all the other swim teams in our area do. There is not a single member of our neighborhood on their steering committee but they do have (barely) enough supporters on the Board to keep this going every year. Our annual meeting is coming up in two weeks and the Board officers (of which I am one) are refusing to put the issue before the entire neighborhood on the proxy that is to be sent out. And since they know I intend to address it, they will most likely seek to prevent the issue from being brought up at the annual meeting for a vote by the residents in attendance. Usually only 25 (out of 263) households are represented at these meetings so it would not be that hard to bring in enough swim team parents to keep it going even if it were allowed to be voted on. These evening closures are costing our Association a lot of pool memberships ($300/family) as once the evening pool closures are mentioned, potential members just join one of the other neighborhood pools in the area. What's the best way to handle a problem like this? I'm confident that if the issue could be voted on by the entire Association then it could be stopped.
DavidW5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 565
Posted:
Josh,

Let me get this straight. The pool membership is separate from the association (separate fee of $300/yr)? Then not all members of the association are members of the pool, right? If that is the case why would you think that association members who are not pool members should have a say as to how pool time is allocated? Does the association subsidize the operation of the pool? If a substantial portion of the families who are pool members have kids on the swim team, they will have the votes to allocate the pool time for the convenience of the team. If that allocation leads to lower pool membership won't those same families have to bear the costs with annual fees higher than they would be if more people joined the pool?

If I have misunderstood the situation, please clarify.

I will say that as a swim team parent of our neighborhood pool for many years, we only had afternoon/evening practice from Memorial day until the school year ended in mid to late June. After that, practice was weekday mornings. Swim meets were held on Sat. mornings and on Wed. evenings. Perhaps a compromise like that can be arranged.

Dave
JoshR (Tennessee)
Posts: 5
Posted:
Dave,

Our Association is a voluntary association so residents can either pay their annual dues or not. If they want to use the rec area they must first pay their association fees and then fork out another $300 for the rec area. Some Association members don't want their money going to support the pool so the Board likes to pretend that our recreation area (pool/tennis) is a separate entity when in reality it's all the same pot of money. Supposedly the money collected from the swim team and the memberships go to cover the operating expenses of the pool (lifeguards, chlorine, etc.) while the Association dues are used to cover capital expenses like resurfacing the pool, deck, roof, equipment repairs, etc.. This is something that most residents don't realize. If there was ever a surplus collected from pool memberships then that money would just roll back over to the Association. In reality the Association money is still used to balance the pool books at the end of the year. So in reality the loss of revenue from members not joining because of the hours does have a direct impact on the costs to the Association. As such, I would think this issue should be decided by the membership as a whole. There are ample opportunities for our swim team to practice on any morning as long as they're out before the pool opens at noon. They just prefer the convenient hours provided by the 5-7 option. Surprisingly enough they're making the youngest swimmers practice in the colder morning hours.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
There was a fellow EdR who posted a lot about a similar problem he had with a HOA in TX, you can search for his many posts on the subject. There is nothing to prevent you and any like minded homeowners from canvassing your fellow homeowners explain the problem and ask for them to attend the meeting or ask for their proxy on the matter. Even if they have already sent a proxy the new one supersedes the old, just like a will. There is nothing to prevent a homeowner in an open meeting of the Association (not a Board meeting) from presenting a motion for the other homeowners to act upon. How it's done should be spelled out in your CC&R's.

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