EW4 (West Virginia)
Posts: 95
Posts: 95
Posted:
I have read a lot of the discussions on absences and removing members for unexcused absences but not really something like this case.
We have a board member who has missed 9 of the last 14 meetings. Including a 3 in a row stint. In that case he "may" have been removed according to our bylaws. The rule was strictly enforced but many members have softened over time on it. An ironic point here is that this guy’s wife was Secretary a few years back and she was known for having members kicked off for missing 3 meetings.
During our FY10 year this member was the President of the board. He accepted that officer role and then promptly told us that our meeting day will not work for him because he plays golf on that day in the Spring and Summer. Myself and another board member immediately moved to elect a new President. Motion Failed. Another board member motioned to move the meeting day for the months the President played golf which passed 4-2. I voted against. That vote screwed up everyone's schedule and the schedule for the meeting room. (We schedule 12 months at time) The President still missed meetings or showed up late, never prepared an agenda, his report, never read the minutes,…nothing. The VP (who is this guy’s close friend) would have to run the meetings even when the President was there. Every time I tried to bring it up for discussion it would get stonewalled. Same for the other board member who tried to bring it up. This whole time the VP stood up for this guy.
Fast forward and he finally misses 3 in a row including our annual meeting. Another board member and I bring up the missed meetings, lack of engagement and the 3 in a row rule as we are now electing new officers for FY11. We were short handed on the board and in all committees. We had to figure out how we were going to handle the work load. 4 board members absolutely refused to discuss removal. The VP refused to even entertain talking to the then President about his intentions.
We are in our FY11 now the former VP is now President. Another member who rejoined the board is VP. They are close friends. The other officer positions are filled. We are back on our Wed schedule. The absent member then hits with an email, “It is golf season again and I will be not be there the next 4 meetings. I don’t expect you to move the day but I won’t be there. I’ll read the minutes.” This reason is not excusable. This guy did show up in May because it was raining. I along with another board member tried to discuss this and we were stonewalled. We could not get the motion for removal on the table which is completely unacceptable. Now we are facing the President, VP, this guy who are all close friends. The secretary and another board member who stated, “having a volunteer who does nothing is better than a vacant position.” “He responds to the occasional email.” (What???) The current President finally agreed to talk with him to find out his intentions.
Our last meeting was this week and there we other homeowners there. The member was not there and he will miss Aug and Sept. That will be 4 in a row. Another board member brought it up. The President made it clear that she talked with the guy and he will be back in Oct and she will not vote to remove. After a heated debate we got the motion on the table calling for this guy’s removal on the grounds of the 3 consecutively missed meetings that happened earlier this year. Like clockwork it failed 2-4. The 4 who voted against sat in silence for 30-45 seconds before giving their votes. I have never experienced such a long uncomfortable silence. Reasons already stated. The homeowners in attendance were blown away and their comments truly indicated their disgust.
These members are so gung ho about applying the rules to the community but they are not willing to stick to the rules themselves. Yes our rule states,”….a board member may be removed after 3 consecutive missed meetings.” vice "will" be removed. The bylaws are poorly worded and people are now taking advantage. At the end of this golf season he will have missed 11 of 16 meetings! He has already shown a propensity to miss meetings at other times as well. We have some big items that need to be taken care of and I honestly don’t feel most of this board is capable.
After this rather long story (I apologize for the length) does anyone have suggestions? The friendships and lack of accountability is killing us. Personally, I have lost respect for almost all of the current members. I have told them that I will not take on any additional project activities.
Board make up - currently 7 elected members. 1 who never shows up. Offices - President, VP, Sec, Treasurer, 3 at large. I am an at large director but I handle the website and all communications. We have committees but all are under staffed.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
We have a board member who has missed 9 of the last 14 meetings. Including a 3 in a row stint. In that case he "may" have been removed according to our bylaws. The rule was strictly enforced but many members have softened over time on it. An ironic point here is that this guy’s wife was Secretary a few years back and she was known for having members kicked off for missing 3 meetings.
During our FY10 year this member was the President of the board. He accepted that officer role and then promptly told us that our meeting day will not work for him because he plays golf on that day in the Spring and Summer. Myself and another board member immediately moved to elect a new President. Motion Failed. Another board member motioned to move the meeting day for the months the President played golf which passed 4-2. I voted against. That vote screwed up everyone's schedule and the schedule for the meeting room. (We schedule 12 months at time) The President still missed meetings or showed up late, never prepared an agenda, his report, never read the minutes,…nothing. The VP (who is this guy’s close friend) would have to run the meetings even when the President was there. Every time I tried to bring it up for discussion it would get stonewalled. Same for the other board member who tried to bring it up. This whole time the VP stood up for this guy.
Fast forward and he finally misses 3 in a row including our annual meeting. Another board member and I bring up the missed meetings, lack of engagement and the 3 in a row rule as we are now electing new officers for FY11. We were short handed on the board and in all committees. We had to figure out how we were going to handle the work load. 4 board members absolutely refused to discuss removal. The VP refused to even entertain talking to the then President about his intentions.
We are in our FY11 now the former VP is now President. Another member who rejoined the board is VP. They are close friends. The other officer positions are filled. We are back on our Wed schedule. The absent member then hits with an email, “It is golf season again and I will be not be there the next 4 meetings. I don’t expect you to move the day but I won’t be there. I’ll read the minutes.” This reason is not excusable. This guy did show up in May because it was raining. I along with another board member tried to discuss this and we were stonewalled. We could not get the motion for removal on the table which is completely unacceptable. Now we are facing the President, VP, this guy who are all close friends. The secretary and another board member who stated, “having a volunteer who does nothing is better than a vacant position.” “He responds to the occasional email.” (What???) The current President finally agreed to talk with him to find out his intentions.
Our last meeting was this week and there we other homeowners there. The member was not there and he will miss Aug and Sept. That will be 4 in a row. Another board member brought it up. The President made it clear that she talked with the guy and he will be back in Oct and she will not vote to remove. After a heated debate we got the motion on the table calling for this guy’s removal on the grounds of the 3 consecutively missed meetings that happened earlier this year. Like clockwork it failed 2-4. The 4 who voted against sat in silence for 30-45 seconds before giving their votes. I have never experienced such a long uncomfortable silence. Reasons already stated. The homeowners in attendance were blown away and their comments truly indicated their disgust.
These members are so gung ho about applying the rules to the community but they are not willing to stick to the rules themselves. Yes our rule states,”….a board member may be removed after 3 consecutive missed meetings.” vice "will" be removed. The bylaws are poorly worded and people are now taking advantage. At the end of this golf season he will have missed 11 of 16 meetings! He has already shown a propensity to miss meetings at other times as well. We have some big items that need to be taken care of and I honestly don’t feel most of this board is capable.
After this rather long story (I apologize for the length) does anyone have suggestions? The friendships and lack of accountability is killing us. Personally, I have lost respect for almost all of the current members. I have told them that I will not take on any additional project activities.
Board make up - currently 7 elected members. 1 who never shows up. Offices - President, VP, Sec, Treasurer, 3 at large. I am an at large director but I handle the website and all communications. We have committees but all are under staffed.
Thanks in advance for your advice.