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ThomasC11 (California)
Posts: 210
Posted:
At recent General meeting, a homeowner questioned the eligibility of a candidate to run in July BOD election. President made a determiniation that the candidate was not eligible. Candidate was out of town at the time and not at the meeting.

Turns out the determination was inaccurate and was not retracted until 2 weeks later. Method of notification to homeowners was a only posting on the HOA website. Other Board members did not stand up at the time to support him either. (1 less candidate increases their chances).

It is impossible to tell how many people passed on the initial incorrect message, costing the affected candidate an undertermined amount of votes.

The Board refused to resend ballots with a message summarizing the error so election is now continuing as planned.

This must be illegal, how can it be stopped? This place is so whacked out !!!
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Thomas, so the President made a determination; no one challenged it; and later the decision was found to be "inaccurate". Why was it difficult to determine elgibility? Could the candidate involved have anticipated a problem and resolved it in advance or else attended the meeting? The decision was retracted and posted on the website. The candidate can inform the members in a more effective manner if they so chose.

So long as the President believed the candidate was not eligible there was no wrongdoing and it was not illegal. To improve the procedure the Board could appoint a nominating committee so this will not happen again. It was unfortunate but mistakes do happen.
KerryF1 (California)
Posts: 5
Posted:
Just to clarify, the incumbent board member whose eligibility was questioned, was out of town on business at the time. The management company verifies eligibility of each candidate before the candidacy statements are published. A management company representative was in attendance at this meeting yet said nothing. The Board President actually made the comment that the homeowners accusation was correct and to go ahead and spread the word that the incumbent board member should not be on the ballot but he will double check. Since the current board president and the homeowner who made the accusation who is also a current candidate for the board, do not support the incumbent in this election, the circumstances are very questionable.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Kerry, IMO the MC representative is at fault for not correcting the President at the meeting. If the MC Agent did not know at the meeting then they should have checked and included that candidate when statements were published and added a note stating the President errored in his comment at the meeting. IMO since the MC is responsible they should have done a second mailing if necessary.

It sounds like the President and the candidate who made the allegation may not want you on the Board and may have acted in bad faith. If that is the case and it can be proven IMO those persons should not be on the Board.
ThomasC11 (California)
Posts: 210
Posted:
what would the process be to get election postponed?
KathrynS6 (California)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Kerry and Thomas,
Roger is right. The manager should have known better and should have corrected the president. As it stands now, if the candidate loses he has grounds to contest the election.

Perhaps your manager simply lacked the confidence to contradict the president at the meeting, but I suspect that this manager may not be familiar enough with your bylaws, or did not bother to check them before he printed the ballot.

This is not acceptable. You pay your manager to be at your board meeting not only to take minutes and model parliamentary procedure, but above all, to help your directors understand their duties under the law. That means not only following state statutes, but also your own ruling documents. There is no excuse for the managing agent not to be familiar with both.

There is nothing more important to a well-functioning HOA than proper elections, and although the nomination procedure is likely found in your own bylaws, Ca. law is very clear about the requirements for campaigns, ballots and voting. The pertinent section of Davis-Strirling is 1363.03. It was clarified in July of 2006, so all community managers have had 5 years to acquaint themselves with the “new election laws."

It could be argued that by making a statement from the chair at the general meeting, the President was breaking 1363.04.(1) which forbids "expressly advocating the election or defeat of any candidate.... If the incumbent loses and sues, it is likely that the board would be forced to hold another election, so I hope the board makes it clear to the manager that the management would be expected to fund a new election.

As responsible homeowners you may need to politely remind the managers that, although they report to the Board of Directors, they actually work for the benefit of the entire Association. As such, they have a responsibility to facilitate proper elections.

In the contract between the HOA and your management co., there should be a clause about the company providing guidance to the board to help the board comply with the laws and your ruling docs. This is a good time to take a look at that contract. All owners have the right under {1365.2.(a)(1)(D)} to see that particular executed contract. Further down in the same citation, the law again mentions the management contract by name, so that there can be no mistake: {section (iv)} " Privledged contracts shall not include contracts for maintenance, management or legal services."

If the contract has some kind of disclaimer stating that even when the manager screws up, he's not liable, well, I should think that would be an issue for next year's negotiations, (at the least), but IMO the board should let the manager know that they won't be paying any expenses involved in defending themselves against the manager's mistake.

So Thomas and Kerry- you have some homework to do, but rest assured, the law is squarely on the side of fair and transparent elections; the specific requirements are quite clear and should be well understood by your community manager. I am assuming that the President simply made a mistake, but was acting in good faith, and he/she should not feel embarrassed about not being aware of all the details of election law. The board should be able to depend on their paid management team for guidance in this, and if that guidance failed them, the manager is responsible to see that everything is made right. If the manager doesn’t see it that way, I’d wonder what else they’re not taking seriously.

ThomasC11 (California)
Posts: 210
Posted:
thank you Kathryn, that is great information and guidance. Best I have ever received on this site. Thank you for the time to document the info, we will start with the PM right away.

ThomasC11 (California)
Posts: 210
Posted:
thank you Kathryn, that is great information and guidance. Best I have ever received on this site. Thank you for the time to document the info, we will start with the PM right away.

ThomasC11 (California)
Posts: 210
Posted:
thanks to you to Roger..

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