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FritzC (California)
Posts: 8
Posted:
Hello,

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a USPS address registered for use solely for the purpose of directing HOA mail?

I'm a board member of a small 9-Unit HOA in Southern California. Currenly all HOA-related mail (Insurance, Water Bill, Electricity Bill, etc) gets directed to the address of the previous holder of the HOA's Secreary position. Every time we change secretaries, we have to go through the drill of re-directing the mail to a new address.

It would be much easier if we just had one 'HOA' address, and were able to direct all mail to it.

All of the residents currently share a mailbox cluster at the entrance to the property, and there is an empty box in the cluster that we could dedicate to HOA-related mail delivery. The HOA also has a common area (no structures) - could an address be assigned to this common property for use by the HOA?

Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome,

Thanks,
Fritz
JeanneK3 (Maryland)
Posts: 562
Posted:
Maybe just rent a box at the closest post office. Jeanne
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
We use a PO box number or the treasurer will pay utilities on line.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
We used our clubhouse address as our official address. You may want to discuss this with your Postal service if you can put a mailbox up. There are issues with using a Post office box. Believe it or not, P.O. boxes aren't proof of actual property ownership. Which means it may not be used for applying for certain loans or utility applications etc...

Did you know a warrant can't be served on a P.O. box if your looking for a person? Unless there is a physical mailbox in front of the residents, the police can't serve a warrant. I know as I have someone who owes me money who doesn't have a mailbox but a P.O. Box. Keep this in mind when considering P.O. boxes. You probably won't be delivering any warrants out on anybody but it's good to know just in case there's an issue.

Former HOA President
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
We rent a PO box at the local post office
FritzC (California)
Posts: 8
Posted:
Thanks for all the replies.

I hadn't considered using a P.O. Box, but I suppose that is one option. It would be nice if we could use the unused mailbox on the association property - for the convenience factor, and since it wouldn't cost us anything.

Since we don't have a clubhouse or other common area structure, I'm not sure how to go about getting a new address registered with the USPS - maybe I'll give them a call in the morning and see if they have some more details.

Thanks again!,
Fritz
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 06/27/2011 5:29 PM

Did you know a warrant can't be served on a P.O. box if your looking for a person? Unless there is a physical mailbox in front of the residents, the police can't serve a warrant. I know as I have someone who owes me money who doesn't have a mailbox but a P.O. Box. Keep this in mind when considering P.O. boxes. You probably won't be delivering any warrants out on anybody but it's good to know just in case there's an issue.

Can you further explain what you mean by "unless there is a physical mailbox in front of the residents [sic], the police can't serve a warrant." My current mailbox is 1.5 miles down the road from my home. My former mailbox was in a mass mailbox on a different street. Are you saying that police can't serve a warrant at my home because my mailbox is a couple streets away?

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
They can if you have a mailbox even if it's not close by. That's because it represents an actual property address. A warrant has to be detailed with exact physical identifying description. That means if the warrant says you have a pink house, they can't serve it on a blue one. If you have enough time to paint it before they arrive. LOL.

A P.O. box isn't a physical property address. You don't live at the post office. That's not to say they can't serve a warrant on your post office box for it's contents. They just can't use it to find you physically. Usually won't have your home address on any of the mail delivered there.

This is a bit confusing. So I don't typically trust too many contractors or people who could owe me money that use P.O. boxes. It sends up a red flag for me. That's because if I have to collect on them later, it's going to be more difficult to do so. Which is something some crooks are aware of. A P.O. box can potentially hide alot of information...Just ask a postal inspector...

Former HOA President
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
"They just can't use it to find you physically. Usually won't have your home address on any of the mail delivered there."

All you have to do is go to the counter and give the nice postal employee a dollar (at least that was the fee the last time I did it in the 80's) and they will provide you with the physical address you supply when you rent the box. This is for any box for any reason, even if you don't know who rents the box, its not like it's privileged information.

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MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
It's also NOT legal information permissable in a court of law either....The police can't bribe a clerk or the post office for a physical address. That will for sure get the case thrown out of court...An individual could try that route but for the law...not so much....

Former HOA President
JimE3 (Ohio)
Posts: 3
Posted:
We also use our clubhouse address for the HOA mail address.

BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
Thanks Melissa...so it really isn't whether i have a mailbox, it's the difference between having a physical address (ie, real property) and a PO box. Got it. The way it was stated first was somewhat confusing, like I could avoid warrants by knocking down my mailbox or something.

Tangential thread: I understand the desire to not do business with PO Box users (or to at least be wary), but I always think back to where I grew up. We had a PO Box all my life, because that was the only option. There was no mail service. Everyone in town had a PO Box, or if you were poor, you had General Delivery C/O Postmaster, and you got your mail sent to the Postmaster, who held it for you at the front counter. There was no other service/option. If you wanted mail, you went to the Post OFfice to get it.

Always hated things that said "No sales to PO Boxes" or some such thing, because I had no choice in the matter. It's not like I could change the city and US postal system so I could have an actual street address.

Yup, lived in a place so backwards, we didn't even have house numbers or street addresses. The old timers, or those who cared to go to City Hall and look at the old plat maps, could tell you what street names were, but I was 16 before the city even put street signs up. Even then, there were no house numbers or street addresses. I lived at the corner of Ohio and Vine. Yup, my actual address was NorthWest Corner of Ohio and Vine. Worse still were those houses not on corners... My Neighbors were "Second house north of Ohio and Vine, next to the church". UPS must have hated our town.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
We used to have a P.O. Box becase it was closer for my father to get the mail on the way to work. We lived out in the sticks where they didn't even have the roads named until about 20 years ago...So it's not like I have anything against a P.O. Box at all. It did cause a bit of an issue registering for school as the P.O. Box was 40 miles from our physical address. Plus that school was our rival...

I just wanted you to be aware of the potential for issues with P.O. Boxes used as a main address. As you stated, some companies don't sell to P.O. boxes. It also could cause issues for those who want to send certified letters to the HOA. Those letters can be "not seen" etc...Depending on the situation if you get my drift...

A P.O. Box is a good option for an HOA to use but be aware they aren't perfect...

Former HOA President

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