GregA3 (California)
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Posts: 8
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Our HOA is approx 30 plus years old and was one of the last HOAs to have galvanized pipe installed in the Irrigation System. The life of this pipe is down to zero and there have been numerous repairs on this system. The landscape company normally repairs small breaks by cutting out the failure and using compression fittings to install a new piece of PVC pipe. We had a meeting the other day attended by about 8 homeowners and the landscape management company. They wanted to explain the conditions we are facing and here are some of their comments:
- Use of recycled water may be coming but the city cannot tell us when. It appears to be about 2-3 years away;
- Galvanized pipe is corroding within and, in some cases, outside;
- Wall thickness of galvanized pipe becomes reduced as corrosion occurs thus reducing the volume and pressure to the engineered system;
- Galvanized pipe is above ground in many cases so you can see when some visible signs appear of buldging or flaking which means a break is developing.
- Spray heads need some replacing since they have become mismatched over the years so spray patterns have changed.
We have had many discussions on whether to replace or repair the system. We have 17 acres of common group that needs to be maintained. A group of homeowners (call them group A) are in favor of continuing to repair citing that the pipe appears to be OK so why go to the expense. Others (call them group B) feel that since the system has zero life left, repairs will be more frequent and the anticipated cost of future repairs could be better spent on having a new system installed.
Some questions/comments that have been raised are:
- When recycled water is the type we are supplied with, does the salinity of the water increase and thus the corrosion of the galvanized pipe increase?
- Does the galvanized pipe have to be changed out to purple pipe above ground? Group A says that when recycled water is supplied, we can simply paint the galvanized pipe purple.
- Does or can galvanized pipe corrode from within while appearing to be fine from outside appearances?
- I've done some research on brownline pipe and its qualities. Does anyone have any pros or cons on this product?
- Group A reasons that costs should come down if replacement is made in the future while Group B feels that a special assessment or increase in dues to cover the replacement project should occur now to take advantage of the economy and costs will only rise in the future. Our HOA is only 25% funded and so we have very little reserves to go forward with this project.
- Use of recycled water may be coming but the city cannot tell us when. It appears to be about 2-3 years away;
- Galvanized pipe is corroding within and, in some cases, outside;
- Wall thickness of galvanized pipe becomes reduced as corrosion occurs thus reducing the volume and pressure to the engineered system;
- Galvanized pipe is above ground in many cases so you can see when some visible signs appear of buldging or flaking which means a break is developing.
- Spray heads need some replacing since they have become mismatched over the years so spray patterns have changed.
We have had many discussions on whether to replace or repair the system. We have 17 acres of common group that needs to be maintained. A group of homeowners (call them group A) are in favor of continuing to repair citing that the pipe appears to be OK so why go to the expense. Others (call them group B) feel that since the system has zero life left, repairs will be more frequent and the anticipated cost of future repairs could be better spent on having a new system installed.
Some questions/comments that have been raised are:
- When recycled water is the type we are supplied with, does the salinity of the water increase and thus the corrosion of the galvanized pipe increase?
- Does the galvanized pipe have to be changed out to purple pipe above ground? Group A says that when recycled water is supplied, we can simply paint the galvanized pipe purple.
- Does or can galvanized pipe corrode from within while appearing to be fine from outside appearances?
- I've done some research on brownline pipe and its qualities. Does anyone have any pros or cons on this product?
- Group A reasons that costs should come down if replacement is made in the future while Group B feels that a special assessment or increase in dues to cover the replacement project should occur now to take advantage of the economy and costs will only rise in the future. Our HOA is only 25% funded and so we have very little reserves to go forward with this project.