SueS4 (Pennsylvania)
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Posts: 6
Posted:
I am trying to determine if this is a Bylaws issue or a Rules and Regulations issue.
I am disabled and I found out early in 2008 that I could have an assistance animal. I requested reasonable accommodation from my condo Board. I was repeatedly denied. I informed the Board that the condo Bylaws were not in compliance with the FHA. The Pet Policy was no cats or dogs, but a disabled resident could have a specially trained service dog if the resident could prove the need and prove the dog had special training. This was under the ADA, not the FHA. When I informed them that the Bylaws were not in compliance with the law, the Board crafted a new document that changed the applicable law to the FHA, and they included very basic information about how disabled residents could have assistance animals. This document was written by the condo lawyer in May 2008.
The problem is that this document was not ever distributed to residents. There was no discussion at Board meetings about changing the applicable law. Some Board members did not know that this change was made. The Board attributed this new document to an Open Board Meeting where there was no mention of it, and there is nothing in the minutes of that meeting or any other meeting since then about this change.
There is a Pet Policy in the Bylaws. This was the original Pet Policy from when the building became a condo. The Bylaws were revised about ten years ago, and the Pet polciy stayed the same. There have been revisions of the Pet Policy since then, but they were in the Rules. There is also a book of Rules and Regulations. This has the original Pet Policy plus some updated wording. Since the Bylaws were not updated in 2007, the wording about specially trained service animals that was added to the Pet Policy was put into the Rules and Regs.
In order for there to be a change in the Pet Policy to generally allow dogs and cats, there has to be a vote of residents to change the Bylaws. Can there be a Pet Policy in the Bylaws and the Rules and Regs, and how is it determined when the Board is changing the Bylaws or the Rules?
According to PA state condo law, Bylaws changes can be made by the Board without a vote of residents if the change is updating the Bylaws to be in compliance with the law. But, if this change is not published, is it actually a Bylaws change? If the document was written by the condo lawyer, and not signed by a Board member, is it really a change? The document says it is a Rules and Regulations change, but is it really a Bylaws change?
I filed a HUD complaint in May 2008. 10 months after the Board made this stealth Pet Policy change, the Board only sent documents in their defense to HUD based on the ADA and specially trained service animals. In the stealth document they had fabricated, they had acknowledged that the FHA was the applicable law. This happened again two years later when a second HUD complaint was filed. I think this new document was fabricated to make HUD believe that the Bylaws were in compliance with applicable law in case the complaints got to the point where the Board would have to defend itself.
Now, the Board has issued a new Pet Policy that says the following: "This Policy has been adopted and enacted by the Exexutive Board as a Rule and Regulation to implement and supplement the restrictions of the amended and restated Declaration of 1991 and to replace and supersede all other pet rules and regulations, policies and manuals."
Bylaws changes must be recorded in the county where the building is located. I doubt that this May 2008 document was recorded. HUD told the Board to rescind the May 2008 document.
When and how do you know what should be a Bylaw and what should be a Rule and Regulation?
Thank you for your help.
I am disabled and I found out early in 2008 that I could have an assistance animal. I requested reasonable accommodation from my condo Board. I was repeatedly denied. I informed the Board that the condo Bylaws were not in compliance with the FHA. The Pet Policy was no cats or dogs, but a disabled resident could have a specially trained service dog if the resident could prove the need and prove the dog had special training. This was under the ADA, not the FHA. When I informed them that the Bylaws were not in compliance with the law, the Board crafted a new document that changed the applicable law to the FHA, and they included very basic information about how disabled residents could have assistance animals. This document was written by the condo lawyer in May 2008.
The problem is that this document was not ever distributed to residents. There was no discussion at Board meetings about changing the applicable law. Some Board members did not know that this change was made. The Board attributed this new document to an Open Board Meeting where there was no mention of it, and there is nothing in the minutes of that meeting or any other meeting since then about this change.
There is a Pet Policy in the Bylaws. This was the original Pet Policy from when the building became a condo. The Bylaws were revised about ten years ago, and the Pet polciy stayed the same. There have been revisions of the Pet Policy since then, but they were in the Rules. There is also a book of Rules and Regulations. This has the original Pet Policy plus some updated wording. Since the Bylaws were not updated in 2007, the wording about specially trained service animals that was added to the Pet Policy was put into the Rules and Regs.
In order for there to be a change in the Pet Policy to generally allow dogs and cats, there has to be a vote of residents to change the Bylaws. Can there be a Pet Policy in the Bylaws and the Rules and Regs, and how is it determined when the Board is changing the Bylaws or the Rules?
According to PA state condo law, Bylaws changes can be made by the Board without a vote of residents if the change is updating the Bylaws to be in compliance with the law. But, if this change is not published, is it actually a Bylaws change? If the document was written by the condo lawyer, and not signed by a Board member, is it really a change? The document says it is a Rules and Regulations change, but is it really a Bylaws change?
I filed a HUD complaint in May 2008. 10 months after the Board made this stealth Pet Policy change, the Board only sent documents in their defense to HUD based on the ADA and specially trained service animals. In the stealth document they had fabricated, they had acknowledged that the FHA was the applicable law. This happened again two years later when a second HUD complaint was filed. I think this new document was fabricated to make HUD believe that the Bylaws were in compliance with applicable law in case the complaints got to the point where the Board would have to defend itself.
Now, the Board has issued a new Pet Policy that says the following: "This Policy has been adopted and enacted by the Exexutive Board as a Rule and Regulation to implement and supplement the restrictions of the amended and restated Declaration of 1991 and to replace and supersede all other pet rules and regulations, policies and manuals."
Bylaws changes must be recorded in the county where the building is located. I doubt that this May 2008 document was recorded. HUD told the Board to rescind the May 2008 document.
When and how do you know what should be a Bylaw and what should be a Rule and Regulation?
Thank you for your help.