TomP2 (Arizona)
Posts: 28
Posts: 28
Posted:
Hi all,
Looking for help with this paragraph:
4. Unless the community documents provide for a smaller percentage or smaller number that is no lower than a majority of those eligible to sign, the initiative petition shall be signed by at least twenty per cent of the members of the association but no fewer than five members. For property with multiple ownership, only one person may sign for that property and the signature of an additional co-owner is not valid. neither the board of directors nor the members of the planned community may adopt an initiative signature requirement that is greater than that prescribed by this paragraph.
That clause comes from here:
http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/1r/bills/hb2454p.htm&Sessi87
You have to scroll down to where it starts "33-1817", but it is in green font so pretty easy to locate.
Note that this is NOT an Arizona statute. I located it in a House Bill (HB 2454) that was not passed out (I guess) during the 2009 legislative session.
The first sentence seems to say that if you have a policy on petitions that requires signatures of 50% or more elegible to vote, then the policy is invalid and must be reduced to at least 20% or 5 signatures, whichever is more. Then the last sentence says you cannot adopt a policy with greater signature requirements than 20% or 5 whichever is more. What if you have an existing policy that requires, say 49% of those elegible to sign? Would such a policy be valid should 33-1817 be passed in the future?
Our HOA currently has no policy on petition signature requirements but have discussed it at BOD a meeting. I am very interested in what our AZ House had in mind when they were considering the above bill.
Also, what do you folks use as a minimum percentage or number of signatures on petitions to change community docs? Is it due to statutes in your state or other reasons?
Sorry about the lengthy post!
Thanks,
Tom
Looking for help with this paragraph:
4. Unless the community documents provide for a smaller percentage or smaller number that is no lower than a majority of those eligible to sign, the initiative petition shall be signed by at least twenty per cent of the members of the association but no fewer than five members. For property with multiple ownership, only one person may sign for that property and the signature of an additional co-owner is not valid. neither the board of directors nor the members of the planned community may adopt an initiative signature requirement that is greater than that prescribed by this paragraph.
That clause comes from here:
http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/1r/bills/hb2454p.htm&Sessi87
You have to scroll down to where it starts "33-1817", but it is in green font so pretty easy to locate.
Note that this is NOT an Arizona statute. I located it in a House Bill (HB 2454) that was not passed out (I guess) during the 2009 legislative session.
The first sentence seems to say that if you have a policy on petitions that requires signatures of 50% or more elegible to vote, then the policy is invalid and must be reduced to at least 20% or 5 signatures, whichever is more. Then the last sentence says you cannot adopt a policy with greater signature requirements than 20% or 5 whichever is more. What if you have an existing policy that requires, say 49% of those elegible to sign? Would such a policy be valid should 33-1817 be passed in the future?
Our HOA currently has no policy on petition signature requirements but have discussed it at BOD a meeting. I am very interested in what our AZ House had in mind when they were considering the above bill.
Also, what do you folks use as a minimum percentage or number of signatures on petitions to change community docs? Is it due to statutes in your state or other reasons?
Sorry about the lengthy post!
Thanks,
Tom