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EddieI (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
I currently live in a townhouse community (34 units-about 1,800 sq feet each) in Seminole, FL where the president has decided, in this wonderful economic climate, to charge every homeowner $7,500 assessment each for refurbishments to the property. Our current monthly dues are already high at $425 a month (includes outside insurance and flood) and I'm assuming there is no reserve, but I've requested the budget.

My question is, has anyone ever heard of such a large assessment and what are my options at this point in time? I wouldn't have a problem paying a smaller assessment and fixing what's necessary, but a $7,500 assessment seems egregious. It seems to me that the preseident is taking advantage of the tough economic times In addition, the HOA is only giving a month and a half to pay the bill. It will be tough for me to get financing in that time. It seems to me that the preseident is trying to take advantage of the rough economic times to do what she wants since there are less votes to obstruct her.

Any insight would be appreciated. Feel free to ask any questions if I left something out.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
The president - as one person - could not have "decided" to assess the members without the support of the board - and I wonder if the membership had to agree to this too.

Were there meetings about this assessment and its need/

This sounds like a LOT of information is missing and I would encourage you to fill in the gaps.

WHAT is being funded?
Is there are Reserve Fund?
EddieI (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
No, she has the support of the board. There was a vote and the board won by a vote. They took advantage of the fact that some homeowners were no longer paying their dues (going into foreclosure) so they could have the vote in their favor. It's one half of the complex against the other. It seems like a way to push people out of the complex. I feel like I'm getting the short end of the stick and not getting heard even though I haven't missed a monthyl payment. I'm trying to be responsible, but who can afford such a large assessment at this time?

I have not received paperwork detailing where the assessment money will go. Are they required to provide that up to the last penny?
DavidA7 (California)
Posts: 179
Posted:
Are you saying 51% of registered Homeowner's voted in favor of this assessment? Is 51% the requirement by your CC&R's. Typically, at least in CA, anything I think over 5% of the annual budget for an assessment must be approved by 51% of the registered owners or it is declined. Doesn't matter what the Board votes. This means 18 units had to approve the vote for your complex. Was their a secret ballot process, a meeting held to discuss before mailing out the ballots, etc... If not you may want to challenge the legality of the assessment. Otherwise you are on the hook. I also wonder where your dues are going, that seems kinda of high and not having a reserve fund.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By EddieI on 06/03/2011 9:32 AM

I'm assuming there is no reserve, but I've requested the budget.

Eddie,

I have heard of such assessments. This is typically due to what you are assuming - the lack of a reserve fund.

I'm glad you are requesting the budget. You should also review your governing documents to see what procedures were needed to pass special assessments.

With the expectation that the proper procedures were followed, if the Assessment has been levied then you are responsible to pay it. If you can not afford it all at once, contact the board and request a payment plan.

Hope this helps,

Tim
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Eddie,

So you do not have Reserve Funds set up for any capital replacement or repairs?

What "refurbishments are going to be done? Did you get a breakdown? Why does it all have to be done at once.

How much is your total, annual budget? Below, this Statute part gives limits to any special assessments so do some math and let us know if the special assessment goes beyond Statute limits.

This is from the Statute 720 308 (3)

"(3) MAXIMUM LEVEL OF ASSESSMENTS.—The stated dollar amount of the guarantee shall be an exact dollar amount for each parcel identified in the declaration. Regardless of the stated dollar amount of the guarantee, assessments charged to a member shall not exceed the maximum obligation of the member based on the total amount of the adopted budget and the member’s proportionate share of the expenses as described in the governing documents.
EddieI (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
I plan to get more information with the budget and what the assessment covers as soon as they give me the documentation.
Donna...Thank you for the legal statute. I guess I need to get the governing docs as well. Should that provide me with the maximum allowable assessment? I'm not very good at intrepreting legal jargon. Can you please explain how I can determine what the maxmum should be?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Eddie,

That paragraph Donna provided basically says that the assessment must equal expenses and be divided up equally in the membership. They can't pad the amount required just to get extra money.

For Special Assessments:

Cost of Project divided by number of lots = each lot's share of special assessment

For Annual Assessments:

Cost of Expenses (budget) + Annual amount needed for Reserves + Annual amount for contingency
divided by number of lots = each lots annual assessment

Note: Contingencies are funds set aside to cover unexpected repairs or expenses that exceed budgeted amount. It is also used to cover expenses while waiting for assessment payments. Each Association should establish an amount they believe is required for contingencies. I've heard that a good rule of thumb is 1/12 the annual assessment.

Note: Reserves are funds set aside to cover expected repairs, maintenance and replacements of common area capital components (roads, playgrounds, roofs (if required), sidewalks, etc.). The amount needed to be set aside should be established by the Board based on a reserve study.

Tim
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Eddie,

Thank God I have Tim because like you, this particular Statute is not my area of expertise.

You have no Reserve or contingency funds, is that correct?

You said that you have flood insurance that you pay for. Are you in a FEMA designated zone?

And good for you to take a look at your particular documents in relation to special assessments. There may be a limit in there much lower than the State Statute. Maybe even the membership gets to vote on this.

Many documents do not allow a Board to assess a large amount like this without a vote from the members. My docs say that ANY special assessment GREATER that 10% of the total budget, MUST be approved by the membership first. Let's hope that you have this in yours.
JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
Eddie:

How long have you lived on this property?

Do they have monthly board meetings? If so do you attend?

For the posts you have made it seems you lack any of the important information regarding this assessment along with the necessary doucements to naswer your question.

Let me just ask a few things and offer my opinion.

Do you know how many units are no longer playing CCs?
And how long has this been a problem?

You suggest several times the President is behind all of this and is using the poor economy to her advantage. Is trhat based on anything since you then made clear the entire board supports this action.

I would guess as unit owners, unless your property is unlike most, the members of the board will be required to pay the same amount. How then is that to someones advantage?

And just doing the basis math you have 34 units each to pay $7,500 IF ( and my guess this will not happen) everyone were to pay you raise $255,000 now that might sound like lots of money but my guess you won't collect it all and what's left won't be a windfall.

You don' know whether there is a reserve. You don't know what these funds when collected are to be used for. IMO rather than asking what options you have perhaps you should be asking how did this happen.

When some don't pay others might be forced to carry those shortfalls. And rather than assume the President or the entire board is acting in some reckless manner perhaps this is what's neeeded to keep the property afloat.

One last thing you mentioned this was putting one half the property against the other half. Was the one half that pays their dues versus the other half that can't be bothered?

Once you don't pay dues you should not have a say. Once you fall into foreclousure your vote shouldn't count. Why then would I bother to care what those not paying have to say.

One last question when the vote was taken what was your vote? And if you voted against this what did you base your vote on understanding you have little knowledge of the circumstances involved.
CarolF (Florida)
Posts: 435
Posted:
We really need to know if this is a condominium (under 718) or an HOA (under 720). In my community, the townhouses are condos, but on a recent thread here I questioned this, and the poster said he was certain that they are under 720. The condo law is very specific about reserves, which would be helpful for the poster to know.
EddieI (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
To answer some questions while I'm still gathering docs:

The property has been in my family since the conplex was built in 89.

Currently, only 2 units are not paying their monthly dues, but more are expected to start not paying their dues because of this assessment. I don't want our community to fall apart. This could have waited another year or so or assess something smaller to address any major issues if any.

Actually 3 out of the 5 board members support the president's cause. The complex is very much split and there are some elderly people who don't want to get involved even though they are against the assessment as they are on a fixed income.

It is to the president's advantage as more of the work will be done to their places. She claims they were not built properly and spent already a lot of money on consultants, engineers and lawyers.

I did find out that these is a reserve of $22,500

I clearly voted against the project and would have preferred something smaller in scale if anything. Now is not the time to be assessing homeowners with a 7,500 assessment. Our property is not falling apart by any means. And the common areas that do need work such as the pool area, dock and front gate will not be addressed. Which leads me to believe that another assessment may follow this one soon.

I'm still gathering more information.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Eddie,

You said that your common area includes a dock, a pool and a gate. I would also expect that your Association might have an obligation to maintain the lake as well. Are the roads also the responsibility of the Association? Do you have any playgrounds?

With only $22K in reserves, I would expect that you don't have enough money in the Reserves unless a major project was just completed that used the reserves.

You should ask for the last reserve study and if there was none, you should ask that one gets done. Perhaps you can volunteer to chair a committee to have one done.

In my Association, when we finally did a Reserve Study we discovered that our Assessments need to be increased by 20%. If your Association doesn't address the need for reserves now, your expectation of another special assessment is probably an accurate one.
JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
Eddie:

As you get the needed information the picture starts to get clear.

A reserve of just $22,000 on a property which is 22 years old is not a lot of money in my opinion.

What I would like to know leading up to this vote was the assessment explained? Were there details provided? How was the $7,500 figure arrived at?

Has this money been spent?
Have contracts been signed for work to be performed?

And the part about the building were not constructed properly who determined that?

I would ask in detail what this money is to be used for. I would have asked this before the vote in fact.

I would ask what is plan B when they fail to collect the full amount? Foreclose on owners? Many people can't pul together $7,500. Hvae they considered the legal costs of collection?

When is you next meeting? Do you attend these meetings? If not I would start.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By EddieI on 06/03/2011 9:32 AM
I currently live in a townhouse community (34 units-about 1,800 sq feet each) in Seminole, FL where the president has decided, in this wonderful economic climate, to charge every homeowner $7,500 assessment each for refurbishments to the property. Our current monthly dues are already high at $425 a month (includes outside insurance and flood) and I'm assuming there is no reserve, but I've requested the budget.

My question is, has anyone ever heard of such a large assessment and what are my options at this point in time? I wouldn't have a problem paying a smaller assessment and fixing what's necessary, but a $7,500 assessment seems egregious. It seems to me that the preseident is taking advantage of the tough economic times In addition, the HOA is only giving a month and a half to pay the bill. It will be tough for me to get financing in that time. It seems to me that the preseident is trying to take advantage of the rough economic times to do what she wants since there are less votes to obstruct her.

Any insight would be appreciated. Feel free to ask any questions if I left something out.

Your options are: 1) to rally the homeowers and try to defeat the vote on this special assessment; or 2) if the special assessment really is needed and some owner can not pay by the due date try to have the Board arrange for a loan and assess each of those owners extra each year to pay off their loan.

Your association obviously needs to correct the management of their finances. IMO seldom is a special assessment warranted. All associations need a long range capital improvement budget and to properly manage their reserve fund so that a special assessment is never needed.

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