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RhR1 (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
Hi Guys,

I am deaf-blind, I got new Home since 4 year,
I got problem next door had biggest problem, I had CC&R Book, I write section number and give to HOA, they don't care me.. why becauase next door blow into my rooms since 4 year ago, I had attack heart on Nov 2009, I got headache, dizzy, stocmch. Nov 2010, I got big dizzy and headache before next day next 5 neighbor man is dead, I saw rear "Red Zone" cure, it are destroy but opposite red zone are fine...

I saw next door many sell, devlery, rear garage bring to other many cars, also every day open garage

I smell bad odor like little chemical that I found star, my laundry, nook's plate wall and powder's wall plate left side next door but next right side wall are no problem, no smell. Night, next door is very highest strong dryer that I know no clothes, 5 or more extra sheet dryers only 5-10 minute becuase next door is very bad odor dust in rooms that sheet dryer cleanup blow to rid of bad odor or maybe chemical

I ask you next door are not allow or allow hide business cleaning dry sell at home?

I am sick, lot of doctor, lot of pills, I need care health, HELP ME?

I already told HOA, she are upset, she know I am crazy and stupid
I already code enforcement nothing me becuase next door are smart and hurry cleanup freah, police came nope it last year, police and code enforcement fed up me

I still dizzy, headache, sinus headache, hurt eyes and ears

please not silly xor not stupid me, please help me?
if bad to me, I will quit it

Thank you
RHR
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
RhR,

Your posting is difficult to read. However, If I understand it correctly, you have an issue with fumes from your neighbor's property getting into your property. You believe your neighbor is doing dry cleaning services from the property and these are the fumes you are smelling. You had contacted your HOA but believe your concern was ignored by the HOA and you are asking for options on how to address the issue.

Is this correct?

Tim
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
RHR,

I've been thinking about your issue and would like to offer the following options:

It's possible that the neighbor is not operating a business but uses the chemicals for a hobby. This could be why the Association does not get involved.

You may want to contact the board and see if someone would be willing to stop by your home the next time you have the issue so they can understand the problem better.

You may want to have a friend or hire a contractor to try and seal up the wall sections you believe the smells are coming from.

Hope this helps,

Tim
RhR1 (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
Tim,

tell me, Cleaning dry service is not aloow or allow ?

HOA Infomation letter to all
I read

HOA said “GARAGES: Please remember to keep your garage closed unless you are entering or exiting your garage.” but other all garage never open or very short time

that next door is open garage every day!!!
why they open garage for? I know they are sick and cleanup rid of small same though to my rooms

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
RHR,

Your Governing documents and local laws would be the determining factor on if a business can be operated from the home.

You might want to contact the local zoning commission and see what they say.

Tim
RhR1 (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
okay, where I find Governing documents in California?
website?

I had write few section on CC&R since 3 year ago, HOA don't care, why?

Do you want read it? if you have MS Word?

P.S. I click attachments for picture, it is not work
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
It's still a bit unclear on your situation. What proof do you have they are running a business out of their home? Seems if you have proof of that you can report it not only to your HOA, but to the government as well. It could be a tax violation for operating a business out of a home if it isn't designated as a business. This means contact the IRS. However, I would contact your BUSINESS license department first to see if they have a business license issued to them.

Do they have a car in their garage? It sounds like carbon monoxide poisoning you may be suffering from. People often don't realize the amount of carbon monoxide a car puts out inside a garage. If you or them is starting their car up in the garage with the garage door closed, this is a potential dangerous and fatal situation. This could be the cause of the fumes. Carbon Monoxide is a colorless odorless gas. I would suggest buying a carbon monoxide DETECTOR and install it on the wall where the fumes are coming from. Make sure doors are open when cars are started or parked.

I am not clear of what kind of communications you have had with your HOA. Have you written a letter or called them on the phone? I would suggest that you use a friend who can communicate clearly to state your issue. You may be too close to the situation or hard to understand. A friend may be helpful in lending you a hand in getting results.
Former HOA President
RhR1 (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
I don't want problem me, I am deaf blind, i lot of pain

I tired attacked not work, I had many photo, becuase I am blind (legally-blind), I can't see garage,, I show you picture garage,

What is "carbon monoxide"?

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
RHR,

Carbon monoxide is a gas that is given off due as a byproduct of burning fossil fuel (gas, wood, etc.). You can go to your local hardware store and ask to purchase a detector for it. They are about the size of a smoke detector.

Tim
RhR1 (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
Ok, I will look Carbon monoxide detector
because Blind can strong small power than people
that Code Enforcement, HOA, my parent did not smell, I did smell... Carbon monoxide detector will work that people can't smell?

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
You can't smell carbon monoxide. That is why you need a detector for it. They cost about $40 - $50 and act like a smoke detector. They have a loud warning that will go off. They also have a paper type form that looks like bulls-eyes. They are dispospal and don't last long. I'd recommend contacting your local fire department about installation suggestions for you. I know alarm companies have smoke alarms tied into the lights to flash on/off when it goes off for those who are deaf.

Carbon monoxide poisoning is a silent killer and very serious. You may want to talk to your doctor and have a blood test ran on it. If you have long term exposure, then it will show up in your blood. It is treatable and you can be okay. It's the same treatment they would give a scuba diver with the bends..Usually no pills or needles...Except if they give you an IV drip.
Former HOA President
RhR1 (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
no, Blind can power smell, I smell chemical or awful at stair, plate walls from next door blow. my parent, HOA, and Code Enforcement can't smell, I did smell, I tired them also my brother and I walk around near restaurant, I can smell smoke, my brother did not smell. I am believe!!

also my work paid-off, my boss want me move to other small room, I got smell like gas-hiss, my boss did not smell, I asked Safe dept, he use test, he found gas-hiss had air hole... he call repair gas company already

you ask any blind person question and answer about smell

I found Law Carbon monoxide in California start July 1st, 2011, I hope next door will no longer
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Hi RhR:

Like Tim stated the posting is difficult to read, so here is my questions:

Is the odor you smell possibly coming from the neighbor’s garage that is left open at times when suppose to be closed? If so when the odor is strong and the garage is open can you get a picture? This would potentially give us or someone else a clue as to what is happening within the garage area and possibly causing the situation. I am wondering if they leave the garage open at times to air out the area where they are potentially using chemicals of some sort.

While I agree with Melissa that the symptoms you are experiencing might be similar to those associated with carbon monoxide the issue also is the odor you can smell, because carbon monoxide is supposedly odorless. Therefore, you should not be able to smell the odor for carbon monoxide. However, I also agree with Melissa in that it would not hurt to have a carbon monoxide test ran. The reason is many of the symptoms you are experiencing and the fact that possibly you smell an odor and think the odor is causing the problem, when instead it potentially is carbon monoxide.

GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Can anyone say meth lab? Call your local health dept, environmental dept or police.
Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Actually GlenL, I am on the fence with this poster. Part of me thinks this is a prankster who's trying to make up a story about a meth lab next door in their HOA. Think they are the one's full of hot air....

However, just in case this isn't some kid just having fun on our forum, I want to address it seriously as well. Something doesn't smell right here and I don't think it's the poster's sense of smell....Maybe what they are putting out here...
Former HOA President
RhR1 (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
Hi Melissa,

Yes, some I go outside front, next door open, it is strong highest blow, I smell it is awful!

Yes, next door many open garage only for after 5pm and weekend becuase they know HOA service Mon to Fri morning to afternoon,

I tried click attached picture, it is error, said 200k, I already 140k not work, maybe hoatalk is block attached?

I saw red zone curb are few damage, but other all no damage

I saw next door don't care landscape, it is empty, I read HOA said must landscape, if no landscape cost $350, why HOA is lazy, they were not warning next door?

I am not english well becuase I am deaf / (legally) blind

RHR
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
The deaf/blind thing doesn't fly with me well because I am from Helen Keller area. She was deaf, blind, and mute and still succeeded in life. We have too many schools, technology, and help resources out there to have an excuse to not take action in our life. If you don't know english well because of your handicap, I believe your handicap is that you don't want to learn or make an effort. You would rather have the effort be made for you.

I am NOT trying to sound mean here. This is the same advice I would give someone else healthy as a horse. If you want change in uyour HOA then PARTICIPATE in your HOA or learn HOW a HOA works. There is no "They or Them" in a HOA...It is YOU and your neighbors. You don't like what is going on then find out what the best solution is to resolve it. It may NOT be a HOA issue but a legal/Police one. That's part of the solution you need to look into.
Former HOA President
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
The deaf/blind thing doesn't fly with me well because I am from Helen Keller area. She was deaf, blind, and mute and still succeeded in life. We have too many schools, technology, and help resources out there to have an excuse to not take action in our life. If you don't know english well because of your handicap, I believe your handicap is that you don't want to learn or make an effort. You would rather have the effort be made for you.

I am NOT trying to sound mean here. This is the same advice I would give someone else healthy as a horse. If you want change in uyour HOA then PARTICIPATE in your HOA or learn HOW a HOA works. There is no "They or Them" in a HOA...It is YOU and your neighbors. You don't like what is going on then find out what the best solution is to resolve it. It may NOT be a HOA issue but a legal/Police one. That's part of the solution you need to look into.
Former HOA President
RhR1 (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
ok, thank you for help, forget it
I look another HOA in Forums California
JenniferM10 (Illinois)
Posts: 97
Posted:
And yet, Melissa, I wonder, if Helen Keller had been raised in a different family, with different educational opportunities, if we would even know who she is. To assume that everyone has the same access to education and self-worth building childhoods as we may have experienced is unreasonable.

For the original poster - as others have said, call the fire dept and get a carbon monoxide detector. Then call your local police dept's non-emergency number and inform them that you suspect potentially hazardous chemicals are being used in your neighbors residence. The authorities will be able to guide you from there.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
If you read the posts, you will see this person was probably posting to be sarcastic. They were trying to post as if they were a deaf/blind person living next door to a meth lab being run out of a garage in a HOA. I don't believe they were really deaf or blind. It was amazing how much their spelling improved...

Besides, if they were blind how were they seeing these posts? Plus there is technology out there that would allow a person with disabilities to communicate much better than they were. I don't believe they were serious in their posting. We get that on here on occassion. I believe by a routine prankster. Seen them try a few other fake posts in the past...
Former HOA President
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Personally, I try to take people at face value unless they give me a reason not to.

RhR,

Bottom line is, if you smell the odors and others do not, there is little that can be done. It's like taking your car to the mechanic for something you hear that sounds wrong but the mechanic doesn't hear it. The mechanic can't fix what they don't see or hear the same thing. It's not the mechanics fault. It's not your fault. It's just a fact of the way things are.

The best advise is what has already been offered. Try to have people come over when you smell the odor and see if they smell it also. This could be your HOA, a neighbor, a friend, even the police or fire department if you think it's something dangerous.

As was pointed out, Id suggest that you hire a contractor to do a pressure test and seal up all air leaks between your neighbors property and your own. This way, you can prevent the odors from entering.

As Melissa said, you should also see how you can assist your Association.

Hope this helps and good luck,

Tim
RhR1 (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
I tired attached is not working
I another website "tinypic.com"

you click it

http://i51.tinypic.com/rrkyu9.jpg
it is my home, next door blow, I put protect them

http://i54.tinypic.com/fm5gqw.jpg
you see it, only one open garage but all shut garage, why????

RhR1 (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
Next door is Sevices bring to many cars since four year
see picture
http://i55.tinypic.com/33tgdtv.jpg
Why??? only one next door but Other all neighbor never services. I walk around many times since I moved new model (4 years ago)

I tired call to HOA, they don't care, I had section on CC&R, HOA is broke of law. Code Enforcement came me last year, I show him all pictures, he called to police come next door, he said nothing.. what hell... becuaes next door always hide and some schedule becuase code enfocement and police come ony week, next door work night and weekend, i got lot of headache, hotburn my ears and eyes, sick, dizzy, I had lot of accident hit wall that next door blow me like drugs feed me then i accident like drunk but I never drink long time, I am angry for HOA not work becuae I know they make I am crazy and stupid becuase they don't care disabled people. HOA, Police, code enforment don't understand disabled people, they are nothing them, I tired since four year next door is smart than me

Please not blame me, I still sick, I know next door is dangerous, I can't help, I can't win
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
RhR,

No one on this forum can provide an answer to you as to why things happen.

If you have tried to contact the HOA and/or state authorities about your issue and they have not done anything (or could not do anything for various reasons) there is nothing anyone here can offer you to correct that which hasn't already been stated.

You may want to consult a local attorney to explore any legal options that might be available.

This is the best advise I can offer (and from the replies, I suspect anyone else on the site can offer).

I wish you luck.

Tim

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