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SueW5 (Tennessee)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Member of HOA in TN, It is written in our covenant that with 2/3 of the members voting we can have the right to enter a homeowners property to repair or recitfy a violation of the covenant.
Since there are no laws in TN governing individual owned homes in a HOA (just apartments, condos and time shares) is entering a provate home legal?
Are there any cases where the home owner sued either successfully or unsuccessfully) the association for entering the home, even if the covenants were followed?
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Sue,

I would guarantee you that the right to entry does not include inside of the dwelling. It will mean entry onto the lot. No where, no how can anyone enter your inside property without a search warrant.
JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
Sue:

I would be interested in hearing the cause that brings you to consider this action. Just what role do you play in the matter? Has the property owner refused to act or take corrective measures? Is this an emergency situation?

On our property the Board CAN enter a unit to make repairs or limit the damage caused by an existing situation in one of the units on our property. If there were a plumbing issue or say gas leak our documents allow the Board to make entry into that unit.

As far as a "search warrant" that is a tool during a criminal investigation and more than likely would play no role in the situation you describe.

With the limited information you have given tough to determine whether your HOA has the right to enter this property.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Sue,

Is this a condo or attached dwelling or is it a stand alone property. In cases where it is deemed an emergency, condo Boards have the right to enter a unit for emergency repairs, water leaks, gas, strange odors (aka, dead bodies) and reasons where other units may be compromised or in danger.
SueW5 (Tennessee)
Posts: 4
Posted:
These are individual homes in a subdivision
SueW5 (Tennessee)
Posts: 4
Posted:
the Association has the right to enforce the covenants as written by gaining permission from the homeowners to enter onto your property to make the necessary corrections.

The above is part of a new policy the board wants to put in place. They are acting on the authority given To the
Board thru the covenant that basically states. That if a homeowner has a rundown property (an example: broken blinds creating an eyesore) the violation will be brought to a vote by the whole subdivision to enter the property and repair the eyesore.
This action must be supported by a 2/3 vote of all homeowners. then they are free to enter the property to repair it
I think it is trespassing nag very illegal
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

In my opinion---very illegal. You can notify, fine and even get in their faces about such things as (your example) broken blinds, but to enter a property to repair them, OMG!!!
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Hi Sue:

As you stated in the first sentence above “by gaining permission” and if the homeowner allows them to enter, then it would be allowed. However, if the homeowner does not give permission … then what? How do they think they are going to enter a home? Break a window? Instead I would recommend they adopt procedure to fine the homeowner as allowed by the documents and state statutes. When the homeowner has enough with stiff fines, they eventually will hopefully fix themselves.

Now as Donna pointed out Condos and such which share common walls do allow entering units. However, homeowners who purchase in said complex know ahead of time that entering for emergencies is allowed and permitted. Their documents are set up ahead of time with such provisions and which they initially agree.

I think what they are proposing is crossing that fine line between HOA rights and Homeowner rights. It potentially may cause a big uproar and possible legal issues.

SueW5 (Tennessee)
Posts: 4
Posted:
The "gaining permission from the Homeowners" refers to the whole subdivision voting by a 2/3 margin that that board has the right to enter the private home and do repairs.
It does not have to do with gaining permission from the homeowner that has the violation.

I agree Donna, I do think it is very illegal.

The covenants that we are operating from were written around 1985 or so and have never been updated. Since there are no HOA laws in TN addressing private homes in a HOA subdivision, I think our covenatns need to be revisied and updated. We had a free legal opinin and the attorney did not have the covenats or bylaws in frint of him and quite frankly I think he missed the going in to the home to do repairs.
The covenatn addresses the issue of an overgrown lawn, letters, fines, and then the HOA having the lawn cut and giving the bill to the homeowner and I can live with that BUT entering into a home is something else all together.

Thank you everyone for your quick response, I glad to see I am not crazy for thinking that this issue if illegal.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
They are referencing that the HOA can enter the property not the house itself. This is for situations like unapproved additions, dangerous situations, wrong paint colors, or broken fences etc...

Let's say the homeowner has painted their house bright purple without approval from the ACC or BOD. The HOA has a right to pay a contractor to repaint the house and charge the homeowner for the new paint job. IF the owner does NOT pay for this, the HOA can then LIEN the owner for NOT paying the bill.

I have first hand knowledge of this because this rule in the WRONG hands can be extremely damaging. It's a good rule to have in order to fix unapproved or dangerous situations and pretty much the only good way for the HOA to enforce their aesthetic rules. How else would a HOA have in their arsenal to correct a situation/violation?

It's a good thing and not a bad one. They can't come into the house but if the violation repair is necessary for home entry then it could be a possibility. That would involve maybe a owner installing the wrong door or window. However, it would just to be so they can fix the EXTERIOR issue.

Don't panic, if you want the HOA to fix something and they dont' have the ability to fine people then this is the best option available.


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GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
I would not enter into any property (it's called trespass) without a court order and a sheriff unless it were some type of emergency, even if the CC&R's allow it. And I most certainly wouldn't do it as some type of mob rule, I know the first one through my door would be met with 00 buckshot.

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JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By GlenL on 05/25/2011 9:00 PM
I would not enter into any property (it's called trespass) without a court order and a sheriff unless it were some type of emergency, even if the CC&R's allow it. And I most certainly wouldn't do it as some type of mob rule, I know the first one through my door would be met with 00 buckshot.

Glen:

LOL … And here I kept having visions of a hog-tied homeowner outside his own door. Otherwise I cannot fathom what an ideal plan would be to possibly get inside. In the OP's state they officially call it "Criminal Trespass".

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