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MarieL (Illinois)
Posts: 82
Posted:
I've had many questions about the bookkeeping in our common interet HOA , handled by a paid bookkeeper-treasurer. Finally after about 5 or more years, at my request, a 3 year audit was just undertaken. Results of which were not very informative about income and expenses. However, it was learned the books do not balance with the bank checking account and the circulated monthly treasurer's reports never reflect the correct amount of cash in the checking account. The bookkeeper-treasurer claims its rare for books in an association like ours to ever be in balance with the bank, due to "transactions in transit".In my opinion something is wrong if the books do not balance with the bank account records and something is wrong with the way income and expense transactions are being handled.Is the bookkeeper-trrasurer correct that books in HOA's never balance with the bank account records or is there something wrong with the bookkeeping service in this HOA?
Thank you for any responses or info you can offr.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Marie, the bookkeeper is correct when stating its rare for books in an association to ever be in balance with the bank, due to transactions in transit. They won't be the same if deposits and/or payments are not yet booked by the bank. But, every financial account should be reconcilled every month.

This is comparable to you balancing your check book when you recieve a monthly statement. Does the total in your personal account agree with the total on the bank statement? Obviously they won't when there are checks outstanding.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
Why wait 5 years.... you should be watching the finances all the time.

- Get paper copies of bank statements, or scans
- Use mint.com (read only) to monitor all accounts. Free.

People wonder why bookkeepers run off with funds.... its because no one is watching.
MarieL (Illinois)
Posts: 82
Posted:
Thank you for your responses, but I should have, expa[ained my issue better. We are a very small HOA,34 units.There are few delinquencies, about one or two a month pay late and several prepay a year in advace. All in all about 28 checks a month are sent to the bookkeeper and expenses average about 5 checks issued a month.
I understand what "tran]nsactions in trasit" means, but what I'm qrestioning is should these transactions be included as cash in the bank on the monthly trasurer's report circulated to homeonwers before they are in transit? The approximate 28 assessment checks sit in the bookkeeper's office 3 or 4 weeks before they are deposited. The deposit is not made in the month the assessments were due and paid,they are made in the following month, but listed as cash in the bank on the treasurer's report in the month they were due and paid. This is whatI don't understand abd am questioning.
Thank you for any help you can offer to clarify this for me. .
DavidW5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 565
Posted:
Do your governing documents specify that the books are to be kept on an accrual basis. If so, then the assessment income is to be recorded when it is due, irrespective of when the checks are deposited. Expenses are to be recorded when goods or services are received regardless of when invoices are received or paid. This may be contributing to disconnects you are seeing. Check with the bookkeeper as to whether or not accrual accounting is being used.
PeterT3 (Illinois)
Posts: 28
Posted:
Marie:

I would be very careful with this "bookkeeper". For a corporation such as your HOA, there are multiple statements that make up "the books", and in total they have to match. Basically, you can have the balance sheet, which gives you a snapshot on a particular day, the income statement which gives you transactions over a period of time and compares income and expenses. Both those statements will most likely not match the bank account balance, since those "transactions in transit" are not reflected accurately. Both statements are generated with the method of "accrual accounting", and in general associate the transaction with the month it belongs in from an accrual point of view. So in your case, if the dues are for April, those would be in the income statement in April, although the deposit may be in May. But, there is a third statement for a corporation, which is the Cash flow statement. That is generated using the "cash accounting" method, and it HAS TO accurately reflect the bank balance. Those transactions in transit can only be included if the cash transaction has finalized, so if you have $1,000 in the bank, have 5 checks for dues with $100 each, and 2 checks you paid your Vendors for $200 each, and all 7 checks are still in transit, then the cash flow balance HAS TO BE $1,000 today. If all 7 transactions checks clear tomorrow, then by the end of the day your cash flow statement will reflect $1,100. As that bookkeeper for a balance sheet, income statement, and the cash flow statement. If he doesn't or cannot produce all 3, then I would seriously consider getting rid of that person and hiring someone who has accounting expertise.
MarieL (Illinois)
Posts: 82
Posted:
Thanks to all of you for your responses.
If I understand correctly, I beleive Peter answered my questions.
WhatIunderstand is, homeowners can't be told assessments that have been paid, but are sitting in a desk drawerin the bookkeeper's office can be listed as cash in the bank on the monthly treasurer income and expense report circulated to homeowners. until they are deposited and clear the bank.I believe he also said they can be listed as "transactions in transit" in the month they were due and paid, but not as cash in the bank, as the bookkeeper here is doing. This is misleading to homeowners who believe those idle funds have been deposited and cleare bank and there is more cash on hand in the bank accountthen there actually is.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Our meetings are on the 8th of the month.

All financial reports are from the last day of the previous month.

Everyone accpets there may be additinal activity after the date of the report.

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