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AmieH (Missouri)
Posts: 3
Posted:
We live in neighborhood with about a 120 lots. They have been building in here for over 5yrs and with the economy so bad have just now sold 1/2.

We pay 390 in association fees every year and the last 2yrs we have been special assessed an additional 100 = 490

We have asked for several years now for a pool cover for our neighborhood pool, and have it writing from the pool company that the builder contracts.

Just this year we were told we could elect a board member because we finally have enough people in the neighborhood.

some one in our neighborhood called the health department to have the pool inspected before it opened this year kind of as a stab at the builder since there is no cover the floor gets very ruff on your feet.

This opened up a whole can of worms as the health department said the pools pump was not up to code, and we needed lifeguards even though we have never before?
a whole bunch of things that need to be done and now there is talk that to get the pool open the builder is going to tax us again, even though they have never purchased a cover for the pool?

After looking over some of the financials there are strange fees?
Can we audit them with our own accountant to make sure we are not paying for builder display model homes landscaping, lighting ect?

Why wouldn't they get the pool in order it is a huge selling point for them why should we have to pay to get it fixed?

Any help or advice would be much appreciated

One more thing the one board member dropped off the board in fear of being SUED?
So now builder has total control?

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Hi Arnie,

Welcome to the forum. We don't have a pool within our development but I'll try and offer some advice to what you posted.

We have asked for several years now for a pool cover for our neighborhood pool

Even if the developer was not in control, this would be an issue of "do we have enough money" to buy it.

I would suggest that someone does some research and give estimates on the cost benefits in having a cover vs. not having a cover, as this could sway any board.

Just this year we were told we could elect a board member because we finally have enough people in the neighborhood.

Good. The Developer would still have the votes to make the decisions. Therefore, the individual should use this opportunity to learn about what is going on and how things work. They can also be a representative of the concerns of the membership.

some one in our neighborhood called the health department to have the pool inspected before it opened this year kind of as a stab at the builder since there is no cover the floor gets very ruff on your feet. This opened up a whole can of worms . . .

Yep be careful what you ask for. What the homeowners need to understand is that they are all part of the Association. It doesn't matter who is in control If the Association has issues then the homeowners are affected. It's best to try and resolve those issues internally.

Unfortunately, sometimes you need to call in an outside authority to address the issue. When this happens, that authority usually looks at everything and not just one item. Similar to having a building inspector look at your new deck. They might show up to inspect the deck, but if they see something else wrong, they have to report it and the homeowner must address it.

After looking over some of the financials there are strange fees?
Can we audit them with our own accountant to make sure we are not paying for builder display model homes landscaping, lighting ect?


You can request the Association perform an audit but typically one isn't done until the turnover. Therefore, individuals would need to request to see and/or copy the financials and pay someone to audit what was provided from their own pocket.

Why wouldn't they get the pool in order it is a huge selling point for them why should we have to pay to get it fixed?

I expect that when you say "they" you mean the developer. Technically, the developer did his responsibility when they built the pool. The maintenance and any additions to it would be the responsibility of the Association. The Association is made up of the homeowners. You will do yourself a lot of disservice if you believe that the Association is a separate entity. The membership consists of the owners of the lots. The money comes from the owners of the lots. Therefore, its the owners of the lots that need to decide how much money to collect and how to spend it.

One more thing the one board member dropped off the board in fear of being SUED?
So now builder has total control?


The Association should have what is called Directors and Officers Insurance that would defend the members of the Board. Expecting that this insurance is in place, the board members would be protected. NOTE: if the Association is sued, then the membership (i.e. the homeowners) will need to initially pay any legal fees and anything awarded above the insurance limit.

As I said earlier, the Developer is in control if that individual sat on the board or not, as they control the votes to make the decision.

I would suggest that you step forward and contact the Developer to see about filling the vacancy on the Board. You will learn a lot in the process and be able to voice concerns and ideas more easily.

Hope this helps,

Tim
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Hi Amie:

As I was doing some research I do not see HOA State Statutes for Missouri and only find Condominium property. Do your documents make any reference to potential statutes by which you are governed?

The reason I ask is because the Condo statute has a section regarding “declarant control”. If you were a condo and due to the time frame you would potentially have homeowner control of the association. I was hoping for a similar HOA statute.

I concur with Tim and also agree that you should potentially step forward and serve on the board. You have taken an interest in your community and it is important for the homeowners whenever possible to be involved. If not involved then when turnover takes place homeowners will be in the dark and not have a good understanding regarding your association and the finances.

AmieH (Missouri)
Posts: 3
Posted:
thank you so much for your reply;)
AmieH (Missouri)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Thank you so much for your reply this site rocks

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