RgV (Virginia)
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Hopefully someone who understands Virginia law can help me with a solution. Our bylaws state that ARC guidline changes need to be approved by 51% of the members (persons who show up on the deed). And that any proposed changes to the RC guideline must be noticed as part of a regular meeting notice - 30 days in advance. The by-laws also state that all notices are to issued by U.S. Mail or in person.
The board sent out Annual meeting notices (and proxy form) electronically to about 150 people who have signed up as registered used of the HOA web site. We have 200 homes (presumably around 400 members -- i.e., two per house). The notice was silient about any proposed ARC guideline changes. The board had a meeting two weeks before teh annual meeting and approved the chnages to the ARC guidelines. About 4 days before the annual meeting they distributed the new guidelines electrconically (again only to a portion of the members) suggesting they were going to discuss these at the annual meeting and wanted some feedback. At the meeting the Pres indicated that the new rules where final (based on the BM vote two weeks earlier) and no additonal comments were required or would be entertained. In addition, he indicated that he had enough proxies to force any changes he wanted. The new guidelines are 600% larger than the old ones (96 pages vs 14)and contain significant changes (some of which have nothing to do with ARC). Most properties do nt comply with all the new requirements. Some violations are very minor (mailbowes, signs, etc.), others are very significant. The new guidelines have stiff monetary penalties attached, which the BM is now starting to levy. The new guidelines also include a series of very strict "maintenance requirments" (such to fines) that go well beyond just trying to maintain common good community appearance to the point ot imposing a harse standards that many member do not agree with.
Here is my Qs:
1)Can notice be given electronically if the by-laws say US Mail or in person?
2)Is notice proper if 25% of the people never recieve it and there is no assurance it didn't go into the junk folder for other users?
3)The by laws talk about notcing members and votes by members but the BM seems to equate members with lots. More than one member may be on a deed although typical voting is 1 vote per lot, the by-laws clearly says members when discussing changes to teh ARC guidelines. Only one proxy was allowed per lot and all members did not sign the proxy. In fact becasue they were done electronically only one member could have completed a proxy.
4)Can a proxy be used to vote for an issue that was not properly noticed in the agenda soliciting the proxy (especially if the by-laws state that all ARC guideline changes must be noticed for 30 days in writing before a vote of the members)?
5) Shouldn't existing variances to the new rules be grandfathered?
6) What is the best way to stop the BM from inforcing the new ARC guidelines until proper input from the members is achieved, notice is properly provided and a fair vote can be had amongst all owners?
I think the answers to most of these question are obvious. I'm just wanting some other thoughts before I engage the BM about these issues. My concerns is that this will result in significant legal fees for the HOA (i.e., higher dues) and some liability if the courts determine the guidelines are improperly established (e.g., we have to pay for the legal fees of others plus our own lawyers). In addition, they could have the affect of discouraging potenital home buyers for aquiring property becasue of the appearance of a HOA police state.
Any input is greatly appeaciated.
The board sent out Annual meeting notices (and proxy form) electronically to about 150 people who have signed up as registered used of the HOA web site. We have 200 homes (presumably around 400 members -- i.e., two per house). The notice was silient about any proposed ARC guideline changes. The board had a meeting two weeks before teh annual meeting and approved the chnages to the ARC guidelines. About 4 days before the annual meeting they distributed the new guidelines electrconically (again only to a portion of the members) suggesting they were going to discuss these at the annual meeting and wanted some feedback. At the meeting the Pres indicated that the new rules where final (based on the BM vote two weeks earlier) and no additonal comments were required or would be entertained. In addition, he indicated that he had enough proxies to force any changes he wanted. The new guidelines are 600% larger than the old ones (96 pages vs 14)and contain significant changes (some of which have nothing to do with ARC). Most properties do nt comply with all the new requirements. Some violations are very minor (mailbowes, signs, etc.), others are very significant. The new guidelines have stiff monetary penalties attached, which the BM is now starting to levy. The new guidelines also include a series of very strict "maintenance requirments" (such to fines) that go well beyond just trying to maintain common good community appearance to the point ot imposing a harse standards that many member do not agree with.
Here is my Qs:
1)Can notice be given electronically if the by-laws say US Mail or in person?
2)Is notice proper if 25% of the people never recieve it and there is no assurance it didn't go into the junk folder for other users?
3)The by laws talk about notcing members and votes by members but the BM seems to equate members with lots. More than one member may be on a deed although typical voting is 1 vote per lot, the by-laws clearly says members when discussing changes to teh ARC guidelines. Only one proxy was allowed per lot and all members did not sign the proxy. In fact becasue they were done electronically only one member could have completed a proxy.
4)Can a proxy be used to vote for an issue that was not properly noticed in the agenda soliciting the proxy (especially if the by-laws state that all ARC guideline changes must be noticed for 30 days in writing before a vote of the members)?
5) Shouldn't existing variances to the new rules be grandfathered?
6) What is the best way to stop the BM from inforcing the new ARC guidelines until proper input from the members is achieved, notice is properly provided and a fair vote can be had amongst all owners?
I think the answers to most of these question are obvious. I'm just wanting some other thoughts before I engage the BM about these issues. My concerns is that this will result in significant legal fees for the HOA (i.e., higher dues) and some liability if the courts determine the guidelines are improperly established (e.g., we have to pay for the legal fees of others plus our own lawyers). In addition, they could have the affect of discouraging potenital home buyers for aquiring property becasue of the appearance of a HOA police state.
Any input is greatly appeaciated.