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JoanneD1 (Arizona)
Posts: 447
Posted:
It is my understanding that according to Robert's Rules of Order, the president will only have a vote on HOA matters if there is a tie. (I understand that he has voting rights as a member of the HOA, but I am referring to board votes) Also, the president is to conduct the meetings and not voice personal opinions. If this is correct, I need to find some language as this pres have given out the wrong information to the owners and is VERY stubborn when corrected. Thanks.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Joanne,

Unless your governing documents specifically say that the Association is supposed to follow Roberts Rules of Order (RRO), they don't have to. Does your Bylaws or CC&Rs state this is what they are to use?

Most Associations do follow some modified form of RRO but do not adhere to aspects of it.

Tim
JoanneD1 (Arizona)
Posts: 447
Posted:
Tim, Always good to hear from you! We do follow them, but when the president was challanged by someone as to whether or not he said he had read RROO and said he could vote and I said no and he disagree and I think he gave us incorrect information and I want to set the record straight. I would like to quote something. I had a book that I gave to him so I have no reference.
PeterD3 (Florida)
Posts: 708
Posted:
Our docs. make no mention of RRoO.

Our Presidents motion, vote, and participate as any other member even if a 'tie' is not needed to be broken (in addition to presiding).
JoanneD1 (Arizona)
Posts: 447
Posted:
Thanks for the reply. Our board has 5 members and if you don't follow RROO, you can do it that way for sure. The president that we have right now is very opinionated and it is either his way or the highway which is not appropriate for the position. He has also written emails to members that are very unprofessional riddled with accusatory language and name calling. We need to get him under control or may find ourselves in a position of having to remove him which is NEVER pleasant.
WillR (Michigan)
Posts: 68
Posted:
Hello Joanne, I do believe that Roberts rules does state , that is small groups, the President is allowed to vote. However, normally it is reserved for tie breaking. But if your by-laws state that the officers are members of the board at large then each "member" is afforded the full rights as all board members. Robert's rules has a web site with a question forum, you might want to try.
CarolF (Florida)
Posts: 435
Posted:
You can find an article "Robert's Rules of Order and Association Meetings" at this website

http://condolawyers.com/articles/robert.htm

(Copy & paste in your browser........sorry, not sure how to link in this reply box)

AnnJ1 (Florida)
Posts: 122
Posted:
Hi Joanne,

Per RRO (10th edition), "Procedure in small Boards"... pg 470....471

"In a board meeting where there are not more than about a dozen members present, some of the formality that is necessary in a large assembly woud hinder business. The rules governing such meetings are different from the rules that hold in other assemblies in the following respects:"

#7 bullet = "the chairman can speak in discussion without rising or leaving the chair; and, subject to rule or custom within the particular board (which should be uniformy followed regardless of how many members are present), he usually can make motions and usually votes on all questions"

Joanne, you might want to read all the other bulleted items too... I selected the one area regarding the chair/presiding officer for this reply to you.

HTH,

Ann

JoanneD1 (Arizona)
Posts: 447
Posted:
I swear you are ALL THE BEST and I will do that. This president is hell bent to find fault and be contradictory to any actions that were taken by the prior board. So much so that he cannot even think straight about issues. Thanks again everyone.

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