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ValerieS2 (Michigan)
Posts: 244
Posted:
Michigan: The homeowners met for the first time with the developer about 8 weeks ago at which the first Board was elected. The developer was supposed to meet with the new Board to turn over documents etc. He is not returning phone calls or emails. My question is, when is the association officialy the Boards responsibility? Was it the moment we were elected or are there papers to be signed?

Thank you
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Are you a Condominium?

This is a definition from the Condominium statutes and which states:
(7) “Transitional control date” means the date on which a board of directors for an association of co-owners takes office pursuant to an election in which the votes that may be cast by eligible co-owners unaffiliated with the developer exceed the votes which may be cast by the developer.

What I would recommend is sending a “Certified Return Receipt” letter to the developer with your requests for any of the documentation he is suppose to provide to the non developer board. Check things out especially any financial information, if he now is all of a sudden playing hard to get and avoiding the new HOA Board … it possibly sends up a red flag and there potentially may be a reason, so proceed with caution.

Here is a good document that RogerB has previously posted and describes items regarding transitioning from developer.

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JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Also Valerie ... if you have funds available your HOA potentially should consider consulting with an attorney. It just is a good way to insure the HOA is off to a good start and developer construction reviewed to insure everything proper. You want to insure any developer construction items such as facilities, drainage, etc. is proper and complete so HOA has less potential future issues.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
You will also want to get a copy of your documentation if possible. The Convenants and Restrictions should be on file at your local court house. The Incorporation documentation is filed as state level but may be there as well. The by-laws may not be filed and aren't required to be so in some state. YOu can find this at your RECORDS department in the court house.

The HOA will need to update the documentation to remove the developer's name and voting system. The HOA may want to do some updating at the same time. I'd recommend a lawyer familiar with contractual or corporate/business law. The changes may require a special meeting of the general membership and 51 - 90% vote to pass. All that will be in the documentation on the vote requirement to change.

This process took us about 2 years and about $2K to file. This cost didn't include making copies for each owner. However, your HOA is just forming and may be easier to set up than ours. I'd strongly advise getting a lawyer to assist. Be careful as they do charge for phone calls and email correspondence.

Former HOA President
ValerieS2 (Michigan)
Posts: 244
Posted:
Thanks for the input.There is never an easy answer but you guys always come through with sound advice. We are single family homes and there is no money at all right now and wont be for at least another month or two until we can finalize a budget and get assessment notices mailed.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Hi Valerie:

Maybe Susan or someone else from Michigan will have more advice. From what I have reviewed it appears that Michigan does not have HOA statutes, unless there is something I hopefully missed. I only found Condominium statutes.

While I understand that HOA’s are necessary and needed for Condominiums and sometimes Single Family HOA Developments. What I find harmful is states and more counties/cities are requiring; however, they are not taking into consideration certain circumstances.

Your HOA should have had better protection in insuring that after developer control you have at least a certain amount of money set aside. An HOA needs a certain amount of funds for initial operation and potential attorney fees to start the association under the homeowners properly.

Sorry … this is one item that irritates me a little and which all of us HOA owners need to potentially mail letters to our legislators to try and insure proper protections are in place for transition from developers. How do some states think an HOA after electing a homeowner board is suppose to set up bank accounts, order checks, purchase office supplies, pay bills, etc. and essentially operate a business with no initial operating capital? HELLO …

SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Yup - Michigan is really lax in this area.

This new board should have never met with the developer without their own real estate lawyer who specializes in HOA/Condo laws in attendance.

The fact that there is now "no money" is just one reason.!!

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