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MarshaA (Florida)
Posts: 6
Posted:
There are 13 luxury homes in our Mediterranean luxury home community in Florida with homes on avg $1.2M +. The original developer is bankrupt and the bank who financed the property is working with the original developer to find a buyer for the lots (appx 50 lots). The bank does not want to foreclose on the lots because they would have to pay back taxes for 2 - 3 years and also past HOA dues. The developer is in discussions with a low cost production builder who wants to build houses in the $400k - $500k range, including the one acre lot, and that specifically do not meet the standards of our CC&R's. Not only would it vastly lower the value of our homes but, among other items that do not meet the criteria, it would result in mass inconsistency throughout the neighborhood (one of the items strictly prohibited in the CC&R's). The production builder is in due diligence and we have let them know, regarding anyone who purchases the property to develop, we expect the homes built to meet the criteria of the specific outline of the CC&R's; that's why they are filed with the county upon the development opening, right? Does anyone have any information or references to cases where production builders were successfully prevented from building homes that do not meet the criteria of the luxury community?
I don;t think any prospective builder wants a fight on their hands by entering a community who has specified their homes do not meet the criteria of the CC&R's; but just in case they do purchase the land we need to know what recourse we have with the courts to file an injunction and have the judge review the issue. They would have to submit plans to the Architectural Review Board at that time and if they don;t meet the standard we would need a way to stop the building form beginning. I cannot imagine any builder buying land like this knowing they must meet the standards of the CC&R's and their builds don't but one never knows. Anyone know of any specific cases like this and how they were handled?
JohnO6 (Georgia)
Posts: 424
Posted:
You're probably going to need legal advice on this. But for a start, I suggest you very carefully review your declaration (CCRs) for the following:

1). What legal entity is/was the declarant?
2). Is that legal entity still in existence?
3). What, if any (likely there are), special rights did the declarant have prior to HOA turnover?
4). Look particularly for the declarant's right to unilaterally amend the CCRs.

Others here will probably chip in with additional advice.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Is it Tesoro or Tesoro Club?
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Hi Marsha:

At least you are aware of this issue now and hopefully not after the fact of amendment and property already sold.

IMPORTANT: Be sure to go to your local County Records website and make sure there have been no amendments to your governing documents filed. You need to do this often maybe weekly or at minimum monthly during this situation.

For something to move forward there would potentially need to be an amendment to your CCR’s. You need to make sure that they do not try and file something behind the current homeowner’s back and without their knowledge. You might also keep an eye on the county assessor's regarding the various lot's and owner changes.

Then you need to follow John’s advice … carefully read your CCR’s and State Statutes. I would print an extra copy of these documents and go through with a highlighters and note declarant rights and options in say orange and homeowner rights in yellow. When reading the state statutes, be sure to check the definitions on items you have any questions. For example in CO the statute refers to units quite a bit. Many people think units refer to houses in a single family association; however, units actually are the lots.

I will be very tied up most of this week, but will try and review statutes and information to help as much as possible. Some information we will need to help research will be:

1) What date was community formed and documents filed.
2) What do the HOA documents state regarding period of declarant control.
3) Answers to John’s questions 3 and 4.

MarshaA (Florida)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Thank you all; we are meeting with an attorney on Monday to discuss. I am researching all items you recommended. Your time and responses are greatly appreciated; thank you so much.

The community is not Tesoro.
DanielH1 (California)
Posts: 482
Posted:
I wonder how you can prevent this.

You have 13 lots versus 50 undeveloped lots. Even if you aren't under declarant control, they can use those 50 votes to ram through almost anything that they like, including amendments that they need and recalling/voting in a new Board who will do as they wish. If you are still under declarant control, it's even easier for them.

I'm not sure how you can resist. Maybe if you work with them, you can get some concessions. I'd be leery of being confrontational, better to get a little something than to be completely frozen out and get nothing.

But, of course, check with experts to see if you have some leverage that I don't see.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:
Thanks Marsha,

I think that Tesoro in P.S.L. is going thru the same thing. It is really sad to see these spectacular developements get downgraded into something that the original buyers did not expect.
DanielH1 (California)
Posts: 482
Posted:
This is a risk that first buyers in a development often aren't aware of.

One disadvantage is that the development may not develop as you expect or, in these trying times, may not be developed at all.

There are few benefits to being among the first buyers in development as far as I can see. Ideally, you want to buy during the last phase of a development. Often, developers save their best lots for the end because they want them to sell fast rather than be stuck trying to unload some obviously inferior lots in a finished development. As one of the last buyers, you can also see that the development when it is mostly finished.

Sometimes, early buyers can negotiate better deals but I'm not sure that it compensates for the risk.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Actually Daniel in some states in order for the declarant to amend items that he did not reserve as declarant rights or special declarant rights, requires a percentage of units not owned by the declarant to vote in agreement. That is an item that we need to research for this particular issue. Maybe FL is one of those states.

MarshaA (Florida)
Posts: 6
Posted:
I hope you are right Janet
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Hi Marsha:

Something else is … have your homeowners start collecting any previous advertising and promotional materials which may still be available via internet, etc. Collect items such as newspaper clippings and brochures where the developer was advertising the sale of the very nice properties. This way if the developer goes behind your back you have articles and brochures showing the potentially false and misleading information, which you purchased under … collect these just in case. Hopefully you would not need them, but better to have now than maybe try to get later when possibly not as available or accessible.

MarshaA (Florida)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Excellent idea, thanks. I understand we have quite a bit of this material as the community is on 3 years old and many people custom built their homes with the developer based on that bill of sale.

I understand Florida law is very strict on HOA's and very homeowner supportive.

I am reviewing the CC&R's now and I am afraid the declarant has all rights to amend at this point. I have to wonder if declaring bankruptcy may change that in the eyes of the law becasue... now he is wroking in his best interest to dump the land and get out from under the note; this certainly is a direct conflict with the CC&R's he is bound to uphold as the declarant. There must be some posture based on that status I would think.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
I am starting to review various statutes between other items, but the following is one reason I stated to collect the items mentioned above. He will need to be careful as there are other tort laws besides just the HOA laws which he can potentially fall under with regards to liability because he is a developer.

 720.402Publication of false and misleading information.—
 (1)Any person who, in reasonable reliance upon any material statement or information that is false or misleading and published by or under authority from the developer in advertising and promotional materials, including, but not limited to, a contract of purchase, the declaration of covenants, exhibits to a declaration of covenants, brochures, and newspaper advertising, pays anything of value toward the purchase of a parcel in a community located in this state has a cause of action to rescind the contract or collect damages from the developer for his or her loss before the closing of the transaction. After the closing of the transaction, the purchaser has a cause of action against the developer for damages under this section from the time of closing until 1 year after the date upon which the last of the events described in paragraphs (a) through (d) occurs:
 (a)The closing of the transaction;
 (b)The issuance by the applicable governmental authority of a certificate of occupancy or other evidence of sufficient completion of construction of the purchaser’s residence to allow lawful occupancy of the residence by the purchaser. In counties or municipalities in which certificates of occupancy or other evidences of completion sufficient to allow lawful occupancy are not customarily issued, for the purpose of this section, evidence of lawful occupancy shall be deemed to be given or issued upon the date that such lawful occupancy of the residence may be allowed under prevailing applicable laws, ordinances, or statutes;
 (c)The completion by the developer of the common areas and such recreational facilities, whether or not the same are common areas, which the developer is obligated to complete or provide under the terms of the written contract, governing documents, or written agreement for purchase or lease of the parcel; or
 (d)In the event there is not a written contract or agreement for sale or lease of the parcel, then the completion by the developer of the common areas and such recreational facilities, whether or not they are common areas, which the developer would be obligated to complete under any rule of law applicable to the developer’s obligation.
Under no circumstances may a cause of action created or recognized under this section survive for a period of more than 5 years after the closing of the transaction.
 (2)In any action for relief under this section, the prevailing party may recover reasonable attorney’s fees. A developer may not expend association funds in the defense of any suit under this section.

JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Hi Marsha:

You potentially are incorporated; however, do your Articles of Incorporation say you are subject to Chapter 607 or Chapter 617? I want to be sure to review the correct Corporate statutes as needed.

MarshaA (Florida)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Hi Janet;
Yes, from what I have found so far, we are subject to 617.
I am also looking for any Florida statute that may address the basis of suspension on voting rights. I am hoping that overdue HOA dues (over 6 moths) would constitute the suspension of voting rights regardless of class (meaning the declarant).
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Hi Marsha ... are your association documents available to view somewhere i.e. website or county records?
MarshaA (Florida)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Unfortunately they are not; if you want to discuss offline I can give you my email.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Marsha & Janet, I don't want to rain on your parade but Daniel hit the nail on the head.

Say I'm the new builder, I just bought 50 lots giving me 50 votes, the existing homeowners have 13 votes. I don't need to be the new Declarant, I have the votes.
Now with my 50 votes I have the power* to amend the CC&R's to whatever I want as long as it doesn't violate the law. Included in my changes would be removing any requirement that a Board member live in the HOA. I can now vote my friends and family on the Board, replace the ACC etc.

My advice, is before you declare a war you might not win, I would get the 13 H/O's to pony up some cash and hire an attorney to find out just what you can or cannot do.

*50 votes is more than 75% of 63 which is usually the upper percentage required to amend the documents.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Marsha,

I have to agree with Glen here. Your documents will say that until you have had a turnover from the Developer, you are still under his control, he calls all of the shots, can change the game plan and is exempt from losing his voting rights. Wording of his exclusion from this is in the statement where his class is stated. He will be class A or class B, depending on how it is worded.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Per Marsha’s statement above they are meeting with an attorney on Monday.

However, it does not hurt to look at statutes and documents so they can have items to reference and ask questions of the attorney. It can help them to be a little bit aware of what the attorney may reference and also help understand what he is stating regarding the issue, if they read their documents carefully and the state statutes.

What I was hoping to find in FL is something similar to the CO and other state’s statutes and which state:
Quote:

CCIOA:

38-33.3-205. Contents of declaration.
(h) A description of any development rights and other special declarant rights reserved by the declarant, together with a description sufficient to identify the real estate to which each of those rights applies and the time limit within which each of those rights must be exercised;

38-33.3-217. Amendment of declaration.
(4) (a) Except to the extent expressly permitted or required by other provisions of this article, no amendment may create or increase special declarant rights, increase the number of units, or change the boundaries of any unit or the allocated interests of a unit in the absence of a vote or agreement of unit owners of units to which at least sixty-seven percent of the votes in the association, including sixty-seven percent of the votes allocated to units not owned by a declarant, are allocated or any larger percentage the declaration specifies. The declaration may specify a smaller percentage only if all of the units are restricted exclusively to nonresidential use.

What the above type statutes potentially do is the developer reserves items in the CCR’s which they want to be able to change, and can do so with their majority of vote. Other items not reserved require 67% of vote “including 67% of units not owned by a declarant”. This in essence protects both the declarant (who can reserve what they want to change) and the homeowner (who purchases in good faith based on the CCR’s).

In essence if I read the CCR’s before purchasing and they state that the declarant reserved the right to change the construction and design guidelines, then I have the option to NOT purchase one of the properties. If declarant did not reserve the right, then I know in order for him to change he would be required to get 67% of units and which he does not own to agree, and would therefore be more apt to buy within that new subdivision.

Potentially before a declarant sells a home he can make many changes to CCR; however, once he sells to an individual then there should be certain rules as that individual purchases in good faith based on the CCR’s, advertising, verbal communication, etc. At that time there is other potential statutes such as possibly consumer protection, real estate, etc. which could also come into play.

After doing some reading FL does not have a similar statute as other states, but they do make a point of putting the above statute I referenced in the HOA statutes. This in essence tells me that Marsha needs to be sure to check with their attorney regarding this statute and other consumer protection laws regarding this issue. Potentially once the developer sold any homes based on the CCR’s and other advertisements he reeled in buyers to purchase for large amounts of money and to not follow through based on the information they purchased under could potentially incur liability and which hopefully could be a deterrent.

One of the best statements I ever saw in a lawsuit case said the following, and which I feel is very true when it comes to an HOA and new development:

Generally public policy forbids unfair contracts of adhesion and unconscionable contract terms. Homeowners rely on covenants and restrictions to protect the value of their single-most important investment … their homes. For any developer to unilaterally amend covenants and restrictions to suit their own financial needs deprives any protection afforded to the homeowners by virtue of the covenants and restrictions.

DanielH1 (California)
Posts: 482
Posted:
I wonder if this will become a choice between allowing cheaper homes or living with empty lots.

If expensive homes aren't economically viable, how can you force a developer to build them? He'll get out of it somehow, possibly with bankruptcy or foreclosure or possibly just hoping that you won't be organized enough to successfully sue. If a new developer comes in through foreclosure or sale or whatnot, he surely won't let you bind his hands to force him to build homes at a loss.

Even if you have a rock-solid case, I don't see how you end up with $1.2M homes on those sites ... unless you build them yourselves.
JimH5 (Indiana)
Posts: 17
Posted:
DanielH1 has it right, you will not be able to force any builder to build what won't sell. I'll bet the only way you can control what is built and who builds it is for the 13 owners to buy the available lots.

Jim
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Let's try this another way, most documents say turnover occurs when X percentage of lots are sold or after X number of years. If all of the lots are sold, turnover occurs and the original Declarant is done. The homeowner's now control the HOA and the owner of the 50 lot's has the power to change the CC&R's including minimum home sizes.

We had a similar issue with a development near here, M/I Homes set minimum standards which everyone was forced to build to. They got to the final phase of the development and the McMansion's were no longer selling so they wanted to scale back the final section. At the Zoning Board, everyone and their brother who had been forced to build to the original specifications including material came to challenge the change. Everyone spoke and the ZB allowed the change because the proposed new homes met the building code.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Interesting … so here is the potential scenario:

1) Developer decides he is going to build a subdivision and has a choice say between:
a) Luxury Homes
b) Above Average Homes
c) Moderate Homes
d) Cheaper Homes

2) Developer chooses to build Luxury Homes (even though he has all the other choices), and sells the idea to a lender who in turn gives him potential financing for his project as long as maybe he gets appropriate approval from certain entities as required.

3) Developer sells the big idea along with submitting the subdivision documentation to:
a) Potentially State real estate or subdivision department, if required.
b) The local County/City planning department for approval.
c) The County/City Council then of course must agree and vote to approve everything including Declaration of CCR’s so the government entity does not need to maintain certain aspects.

4) Developer then subdivides and starts advertising to sell his grand plan. Developer now is reeling in one buyer after another and making some really darn good profit. Maybe times are good and he is spending that money on toys just as fast as he is making it and enjoying life. Who cares if he still has homes to build and obligations to maintain, life is fun right now.

The buyer knows:

1) Developer potentially received financing from some entity, so developer must be financially stable otherwise how is he able to finance and build nice luxury homes.
2) The local planning department of course approved and supposedly reviewed all the various stages of the development process to insure all proper code requirements are met.
3) City/County government officials had to vote and approve the subdivision including the Declaration of CCR’s which of course were reviewed by city attorney to insure all aspects that city does not want to maintain are accounted for and documented.
4) Consumer potentially reviewed development brochures, seen advertisements, etc.
5) They spoke with realtor and developer, who along with those brochures potentially make statements such as the entire development is going to be above average homes, stucco exterior, granite counters, lots of tile, travertine, marble, etc.
6) Important they also must read the Declaration of CCR’s, By-Laws, etc., at least if smart. They also potentially have been told that these documents will be followed and are in place to help protect the value of the homes and therefore protect your investment.

After all the above takes place the consumer (potential home buyer) purchases because everything above is potentially the truth, after all look at who all had to finance, review, approve, etc. this grand adventure.

Then when times get a little tough … who gets hung out to dry … the end consumer of course. The person who spent hundreds of thousands or even millions on a home they purchase, agreed to the CCR’s, all in good faith based on the documents, etc. because their property is suppose to be protected.

Now if the consumer had gone to the local store and purchased a lousy ten dollar item and said item was not what was advertised, they could return it and get their money refunded. But if you purchase a million dollar item and said item ends up not as advertised, the developer just changes the advertisement to line his own pockets, while potentially emptying the home buyer’s pockets … and it is amazing people think that is acceptable practice.

So, why do all the other above entities potentially have no responsibility and the home buyer is allowed to be given the shaft, when they are in essence the totally innocent party in the entire scenario?

If developers or other entities were held responsible then potentially they should have to pay homeowners they took advantage of and then in the future when they start something they will be sure they can finish, or pay the price to lower the standard. Potentially they would choose to build moderate homes and take care of business instead of choosing luxury homes with the attitude of … if I can’t finish then I can just give everyone the shaft after living high on the homeowner’s money for a while. This is something HOA lobbyists need to look at because this is where the rubber meets the road when it comes to protecting property rights, especially in some states where developer is given in essence cart-blanche and no set turnover date.

GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Janet, I'm not saying it's right, I'm not saying it's fair, I'm saying it's legal. (Not an attorney) And as Daniel pointed out, one of the very big risks that early buyer face. Going back to your $10.00 item analogy, the buyer of that item would be in the the same boat if when he went to return it, he found out the store had closed and declared bankruptcy.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Glen … I have to admit you have a very valid point. I agree if bankruptcy is filed that potentially puts a different scope to the equation. However, if bankruptcy not filed and CCR’s changed for personal benefit of just the developer then it is very morally and ethically wrong. I’m not an attorney either, but it is just not right depending on certain circumstances. Maybe my morals and ethics are set at too high of a standard.

Potentially if this is a risk that early buyers face … then the future could become bleak with nobody willing to purchase in a new HOA development.

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