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SteveN4 (Alabama)
Posts: 6
Posted:
We have had a series of by law violations that have been documented and submitted to our board attorney. The bulk of the violations deal primarily with actions taken by the either the president or the executive committee without the full board's vote, including spending association funds. The individuals responsible for these actions seem to think that all we have to do is bring up the issues and vote to retroactively approve them. Could it be that simple?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Steve,

Without knowing specifics it is really difficult to provide good advise.

Some States and some bylaws have a provision for an action without a meeting. Alabama is one of those States (providing your Association is incorporated). Basically, as long as all the members of the Board agree, in writing (usually done by e-mail) and then mentioned in the following regular scheduled meeting, then the action would be legal.

This would be covered under Title 10A:

Section 10A-3-2.14

Action by members or directors without meeting.

Any action required by this title or this chapter to be taken at a meeting of the members or directors of a nonprofit corporation or any action which may be taken at a meeting of the members or directors or of a committee of directors may be taken without a meeting if a consent in writing, setting forth the action so taken, is signed by all of the members entitled to vote with respect to the subject matter thereof, all of the directors or all of the members of the committee of directors, as the case may be. The consent shall have the same force and effect as a unanimous vote and may be stated as such in any filing instrument filed with either the judge of probate or Secretary of State.

(Acts 1984, No. 84-290, p. 502, §25; §10-3A-40; amended and renumbered by Act 2009-513, p. 967, §171.)


Here is a link to Alabama Legislative Web Site Click the Tab on the left for Code of Alabama then click view to see the code.

Tim

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Steve,

I forgot to add, that in my Association, if the President thought they could do everything without prior board approval, that individual would no longer be serving as President.

Typically, the individual is appointed to the office of President by the Board. Therefore, the Board can remove the individual from that office (not from the Board, just from the office).

SteveN4 (Alabama)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Thank you. The violations occurred without written consent and were never brought up in a meeting, just announced after the fact. They include:
-the president having an appraisal done on the vacant swim tennis/fitness/club and paying for it with POA funds.
-the president appointing himself to fill a vacant board position
-the president forming an ad hoc committee

These are not all the violations because they are too many to list here, and some probably only arise to the level of irregularities as opposed to violations.

The problem our board has is the president along with six other members of a twelve person board vote in a block no matter what the issue so any attempt to remove him or get anything done is automatically blocked.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I don't see where the president getting an appraisal for neglected areas and paying for it out of the POA/HOA funds is wrong. Where else was the money supposed to come from? A HOA is ONLY funded by it's members FOR it's members. So if he/she was trying to get an appraisal for repairs for a neglected area, the money would have to come from the POA funds. No violation there except maybe it might have been unnecessary work. However, neglected common area usually does effect HOA values.

Are you involved in your POA? Do you attend meeting regularly or on a committee? Have your read your documentation? Just curious as I didn't see any real serious violations out of the example you provided. Not saying it's not happening. They happen all the time to ALL HOA's. Just wasn't seeing any real glaring violations.

Having a lawyer to handle violations is extremely expensive and grossly inefficient in alot of cases. It's best to make sure the HOA has the ability to enforce fines and punishments in their documentation. Many HOA's lack this and thus make collecting fines not possible. The HOA strongest artillery in their arsenal is Liens and foreclosures. Much better than lawsuits and even better than letters....

Former HOA President
SteveN4 (Alabama)
Posts: 6
Posted:
The board did not vote or approve the $2400 it costs for the appraisal. I support it, but because the board did not approve the expenditure it seems to be a clear violation. The purpose of the attorney review is to make sure we, as a board, have complied completely with the by laws. We anticipate potentially purchasing the property which is sure to generate discord and we want to make sure we have all our i's dotted and t's crossed.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
You don't need compliant to your by-laws. You need compliant to your Convenants and Restrictions. The CC&R's are the real binding contract. By-laws are just the "filler" to better define the CC&R's. They act more like an "outline". By-laws aren't even required to be filed in some states. The CC&R's are filed Locally in the COUNTY and your Incorporation documentation is filed at STATE level.

Your HOA may not be a non-profit corporation if you can purchase property. That is important to look up. Some HOA's can't purchase additional property. It's in the CC&R's if you can or can not purchase additional property. It may also be in your Incorporation documentation.

The President may have been acting on the behalf of the homeowners. This may have been an issue that the general homeowner's wanted addressed. Which if that was the case, the BOD should have acted on their behalf to get this done and NOT table the idea. Something tells me this is a bigger issue than what appears.

Former HOA President
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
I agree with Melissa in that this appears to be a bigger issue than what it appears.

Per your statement: “We anticipate potentially purchasing the property which is sure to generate discord”.

So my question is … Do the homeowner’s get to vote regarding whether or not the property is to be purchased? If so, it may have been better to see if they were willing to foot the cost of purchasing the property before having an appraisal.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By SteveN4 on 04/04/2011 9:02 AM
The board did not vote or approve the $2400 it costs for the appraisal. I support it, but because the board did not approve the expenditure it seems to be a clear violation. The purpose of the attorney review is to make sure we, as a board, have complied completely with the by laws. We anticipate potentially purchasing the property which is sure to generate discord and we want to make sure we have all our i's dotted and t's crossed.

Steve,

If the Association is considering purchasing property, getting an appraisal would certainly be prudent.

I would just caution the Board that anything related to the possible purchase be voted upon prior to committing the Association or implementing a step in the process. This way, the Board can minimize any possible issues from the membership.

I would also recommend that the Board keeps the membership informed, via newsletters, about the process and where the Association is in the process. I suspect that the Board has the legal authority to purchase any property without membership approval. However, they should put it to a vote of the membership and abide by that vote - as this should eliminate any future complaints about the purchase.

Tim
DanielH1 (California)
Posts: 482
Posted:
Other posters seem to be responding to a different question than you asked.

If the Board approves the past payments, there is no issue. A judge would reason that the payments were subsequently approved so it is certain that they would have been approved before the payments if they had been voted on. Nobody has legal justification to claim that their rights were infringed or harmed.

If the Board does not approve the past payments, the Board can demand what specific Bylaw, rule or resolution gives the Board Member the general or specific authority to spend the money. If he has none, the Board can require him to reimburse the HOA for the payments. If he refuses, the HOA can sue or take whatever actions that they can to collect the money.

Board Members cannot take action without some kind of authorization. Just being a Board Member doesn't allow you to make up rules that seem fair to you. Unless you have something that authorizes you to take action, you don't have a right to take it. However, if the situation is such that the decision would have been made anyway, the Board Member can defend himself successfully, even if he didn't do things in the correct order.
CarolR11 (Colorado)
Posts: 2,563
Posted:
The president would be in big trouble in my HOA too for exceeding his/her authority. Only the board as a group, may decide these matters. All if taking action without a meeting; a quorum if at a scheduled meeting.
SteveN4 (Alabama)
Posts: 6
Posted:
We are a non profit, and our by laws require 2/3 vote of the membership to approve a purchase or get a loan. We anticipate getting the 2/3 vote but also anticipate a subset of the other 1/3 to be strongly opposed. So there are no bigger issues other than what to do about past violations of the by laws. Is it just a matter of bringing up the old issues and approving them? Does it matter that the make up of the board is different, does it require a simple majority or an unanimous vote?

Right now we have a sitting board member (maybe) who, as past president appointed himself to fill a vacant director's position since his term was ending. One board member brought this violation up at the time, it is recorded in the minutes, and now that some other board members have voiced their concern, this individual along with several others is disputing the minutes and saying that the board did in fact vote on this. I was there and it did not happen and the minutes bear this out.

Thanks for all the feedback.
LynetteB (Texas)
Posts: 141
Posted:

-the president appointing himself to fill a vacant board position

This action is generally not allowed. Most associations, by law, require board members to be elected by the members. The majority of the board can appoint someone to fill a position for the rest of an unexpired term only. Is that what happened? It would still have to be done properly where all board members are notified, (and members in order to meet any open meeting requirements), and a proper vote is called.

Sounds like your board is letting the officers run the show. Most places have the officers report to the board.
SteveN4 (Alabama)
Posts: 6
Posted:
That's exactly what is happening...the officers (exec cmtee) have been running the show and a vocal minority has pointed this out. The position was a vacant, unexpired term of a resigning board member. The president showed up at a monthly meeting and announced he was filling the position.

Other violations/irregularities include: the failure to keep minutes at a "special meeting"; the formation of an ad-hoc committee by the exec cmtee, not by a vote of the board; the failure of the ad hoc cmtee to keep minutes; posting meeting notices on the web, and not "conspicuously" on the property; etc.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Hi Steve:

I would check with your attorney and my suggestion would be depending on what is stated in your governing documents regarding this situation (as they would control), the board should potentially either vote for the individual who appointed himself or vote for some other individual to take the position (if they do not want said current individual who appointed himself). If this is the individual who is potentially causing all these problems, now would be the time to possibly eliminate from the board. This would meet the requirements of the Non-Profit Corporation statute as noted below (or potentially as noted in your governing documents, if needed):

Non-Profit Corporation:
Section 10A-3-2.10

Board of directors; vacancies.
(a) Any vacancy occurring in the board of directors and any directorship to be filled by reason of an increase in the number of directors may be filled by the affirmative vote of a majority of the remaining directors, though less than a quorum of the board of directors, unless the governing documents of the nonprofit corporation provide that a vacancy or directorship so created shall be filled in some other manner, in which case the provision shall control.
(b) A director elected or appointed, as the case may be, to fill a vacancy shall be elected or appointed for the unexpired term of his or her predecessor in office.
(c) Any directorship to be filled by reason of an increase in the number of directors may be filled by the board of directors for a term of office continuing only until the next election of directors.

Have it noted in the current minutes that after checking the documents and state laws it was found that an officer cannot appoint himself to the position; therefore, steps are being taken now to correct the action. Even large corporations have mistakes made, but the important thing is to try and correct them when found following proper procedures. Also, fixing potentially relieves certain possible liabilities.

For actions taken without a meeting the following is in your state Non-Profit statutes and which states:

Section 10A-3-2.14

Action by members or directors without meeting.
Any action required by this title or this chapter to be taken at a meeting of the members or directors of a nonprofit corporation or any action which may be taken at a meeting of the members or directors or of a committee of directors may be taken without a meeting if a consent in writing, setting forth the action so taken, is signed by all of the members entitled to vote with respect to the subject matter thereof, all of the directors or all of the members of the committee of directors, as the case may be. The consent shall have the same force and effect as a unanimous vote and may be stated as such in any filing instrument filed with either the judge of probate or Secretary of State.

Therefore, this is an option if the board can meet these qualifications. Otherwise, as someone noted above potentially the board needs to determine whether or not the appropriation of association funds for the appraisal was proper, if not proper then they would potentially need to possibly pursue the individual for reimbursement of corporate money improperly spent:

Section 10A-3-8.01

Unauthorized assumption of corporate powers.
All persons who assume to act as a corporation without authority to do so shall be jointly and severally liable for all debts and liabilities incurred or arising as a result thereof.

Potentially the board needs to keep in mind that not following proper procedures could possibly incur liability for themselves if they do not properly pursue and in essence could be viewed as participating regarding improper actions.

The ad-hoc committee formed by one director in essence according to statute is potentially not valid:

Section 10A-3-2.12

Board of directors; committees.
If the governing documents of a nonprofit corporation so provide, the board of directors, by resolution adopted by a majority of the directors in office, may designate and appoint one or more committees each of which shall consist of two or more directors, which committees, to the extent provided in the resolution, or in the governing documents of the nonprofit corporation, shall have and exercise all the authority of the board of directors, except that no committee shall have the authority of the board of directors in reference to amending, altering, or repealing the bylaws; electing, appointing, or removing any member of any committee or any director or officer of the corporation; amending the certificate of formation, restating the certificate of formation, adopting a plan of merger or adopting a plan of consolidation with another nonprofit corporation or other entity authorizing the conversion of the nonprofit corporation into another form of entity; authorizing the sale, lease, exchange, or mortgage of all or substantially all of the property and assets of the corporation; authorizing the voluntary dissolution of the corporation or revoking proceedings therefor; adopting a plan for the distribution of the assets of the nonprofit corporation; or amending, altering, or repealing any action or resolution of the board of directors which by its terms provides that it shall not be amended, altered, or repealed by the committee. Other committees not having and exercising the authority of the board of directors in the management of the nonprofit corporation may be designated by a resolution adopted by a majority of the directors present at a meeting at which a quorum is present. The designation and appointment of any committee and the delegation thereto of authority shall not operate to relieve the board of directors, or any individual director of any responsibility imposed upon it or him or her by law.

If the board wants the said committee they have the option of now making the committee a viable legal committee with a proper vote following procedures in your documents and the statutes.

This is just my two cents … if you agree with any of them, check with your attorney to see if they are potential options.

Also, I would suggest you follow Tim’s advice after these few issues are somewhat settled and get the membership involved. The more up front you are with the membership the better future for the association. Hopefully that will keep individuals down the road from potentially posting questions to all of us on how to recall board of directors. That is a question many of us hate to see asked by association members, mostly because in many situations it should have or could have been avoided.

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