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MatthewN1 (California)
Posts: 1
Posted:
Hello Folks, glad I found this place.

Here's the scoop. My townhome complex has Guest Parking only. Residents are required to park in their garages only, with the exception of 9 spaces alloted for "paid reserved parking". I pay for one of the spaces, which is $50 a month. It became apparent right away that most of the vehicles parked in guest parking were owned by residents. I complained to the management company, and provided a string of documentation by email and telephone calls, including daily pictures. The "security guard" has refused to do his job for fear of retribution.

The management company has since given me written authorization to place warning stickers on cars and authorize them to be towed. My name is on the list of approved people on the tow company's list of representatives, and I have a letter on the management company's letterhead as well. They also issued me a stack of bright orange warning stickers. I have kept all of my emails and even the envelope the stickers came in by mail.

I have now been threatened with a lawsuit by another resident. They claim I have no authority whatsoever to have their vehicles towed, and that the management company can't give it to me. Naturally, they are unhappy that it is 3 of their vehicles that I have stickered. i have called for tow on one of them several times, but they move it every time the tow truck shows up until he leaves. They claim what I am doing is harassment.

Who is right here? Any knowledgeable input would be appreciated.

Thanks!

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Matthew,

From what you saying I am of the expectation of the following:

1) The Association is in compliance with any and all county/city towing requirements (signage, etc.).

2) The spot in question is common area that you are currently renting from the Association.

It would be my opinion that the only authority to have any vehicle towed would be the Association or whom the Association gave this authority to. The Association is administered by the Board of Directors, not the management company. Therefore, I believe that the Board could certainly authorize the Management company to enforce the parking restrictions up to and including towing. However, in my opinion, the management company would have no authority to extend the enforcement authorization to a member of the Association. This type of authority should come from the Board directly.

My suggestion is one or more of the following:

1. Stop your individual enforcement until you get an authorization letter from the Board of Directors directly.

2. Contact the management company with a copy to the board each and every time about someone parking in your space (even if you get the letter). This way there is documentation.

3. Suggest to the Board that they issue specific permits to those renting spaces and if a vehicle is parked in the spaces that are rented without a permit that towing is automatically enforced by the tow company (might require additional signage for each spot and a modification of the contract with the towing company allowing them to tow without being informed).

Tim
PamelaM5 (Florida)
Posts: 85
Posted:
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Posted By MatthewN1 on 03/02/2011 10:33 PM
Hello Folks, glad I found this place.

Here's the scoop. My townhome complex has Guest Parking only. Residents are required to park in their garages only, with the exception of 9 spaces alloted for "paid reserved parking". I pay for one of the spaces, which is $50 a month. It became apparent right away that most of the vehicles parked in guest parking were owned by residents. I complained to the management company, and provided a string of documentation by email and telephone calls, including daily pictures. The "security guard" has refused to do his job for fear of retribution.

The management company has since given me written authorization to place warning stickers on cars and authorize them to be towed. My name is on the list of approved people on the tow company's list of representatives, and I have a letter on the management company's letterhead as well. They also issued me a stack of bright orange warning stickers. I have kept all of my emails and even the envelope the stickers came in by mail.

I have now been threatened with a lawsuit by another resident. They claim I have no authority whatsoever to have their vehicles towed, and that the management company can't give it to me. Naturally, they are unhappy that it is 3 of their vehicles that I have stickered. i have called for tow on one of them several times, but they move it every time the tow truck shows up until he leaves. They claim what I am doing is harassment.

Who is right here? Any knowledgeable input would be appreciated.

Thanks!


Are they parking in your spot or in the other unassigned spots? I'm not quite clear on which it is. If you rent the spot, it - and the others that are rented - should be marked as such and no one should be parking in them, of course. But if residents are parking in other guest spots your actions are a good way to start and perpetuate neighborhood feuds.

Let the management company deal with it unless it's your spot. If someone parked in your driveway you'd call a tow truck, but if someone parked in your neighbor's driveway it wouldn't be your place.

MikeV (New Mexico)
Posts: 31
Posted:
Matthew,

I can't say that I have knowledgeable input, but I'll give you my opinion.

Unless you are looking for trouble, you (as really just another homeowner) should not involve yourself in any way with policing parking, putting warning stickers on vehicles (stickers are annoying and damaging to vehicles anyway), and/or having vehicles towed. Even if you’ve received “authority” from the Board or Management Company, this is still a sticky situation that should be left to the Board, Management Company, and security guard for enforcement.

I understand your frustration with people ignoring the rules and parking for free in the guest spaces while you follow the rules and pay $50 per month. You could inform the Board and Management Company that due to non-enforcement of existing rules (and apparent acceptance of rule-breaking), you too will be parking in the guest spaces and no longer paying your $50 per month until enforcement begins and everyone is made to follow the same rules.

A different way to address the issue would be to try and have fines issued to the owner of the vehicles instead of having them towed. With enough fines, they will eventually get the point. You, as another homeowner could anonymously submit complaints to the Board and Management Company (with pictures and proof of repeated offenses). If Board or Management Company does not follow through with warning letters and fines to the proper homeowners, you then have a verifiable complaint against the Board for not fulfilling their fiduciary responsibility to the Association. Essentially this would be a way to force the Board to take action rather than allow them to continue making it your problem.

Good luck.
PeterD3 (Florida)
Posts: 708
Posted:
Typically ByLaws state only the President has signature authority on behalf of the Corp.

If this is true in your case No One can bestow this power to you unless the ByLaws are changed.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Hi Matthew:

Keep in mind your board/officers are ultimately responsible for making sure everyone follows the HOA documents and rules. They are also covered by the HOA insurance in fulfilling their duties, if there is potential litigation.

Also, if you become the parking lot police at some point you will have many of your neighbors harboring hard feelings. At some point they may even start gleefully considering the utilization of tar and feathers. I would think it is better for you to get along with your neighbors and have those elected properly fulfill their duties.

RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Mathew, you stated the management company gave you written authorization but you need authorization from the Board of Directors which states explicitly what you are authorized to do. Also, you need to check and make sure the association's D&O insurance would cover your actions in case of a suit. I think the Board does have the authority to give the authorization; and I know many owners threaten who do not walk their talk. Nevertheless, it doesn't assure that an irrate owner will not physically attack you.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Ooops. Sent too soon.
Lastly, if this is the duty of the management company the Board should require the management company do this job.
DanielH1 (California)
Posts: 482
Posted:
I live in a HOA in a very similar situation. I even live in California, too.

You shouldn't worry.

Your situation has two parts: (1) placing stickers and notices and (2) authorizing tows.

In California, the law is silent on #1 so that doesn't matter. If somebody gave you stickers, notices and an authorization letter, you're good to go.

For #2, the DMV says that an "agent" of the HOA needs to sign for the tow. By definition, Directors are agents of the HOA. The management company is an agent, too; part of managing the property is dealing with parking issues. A security company, if contracted with, is an agent of the HOA. Even the gardener is an agent of the HOA. But can an agent delegate its authority?

There's a pretty strong case to be made that, since a management company is directly responsible for the property and parking, that it can deputize homeowners with the same authority. The management company has given you a letter that authorizes you as their agent so an agent of an agent of the HOA is also an agent of the HOA.

Even so, you have prima facie evidence (the letter) that you are authorized. It is your irate neighbor's responsibility to prove that you are not authorized. You don't have to prove anything; he has to prove it all. Until he proves it to the Board, the management company or a judge and they take action, you are authorized.

But, as others say, it wouldn't hurt to get authorization directly from the Board.

It is not harassment. They are parking illegally (regardless of their nitpickiness over authority) and you are carrying out a duty.

I think that your irate neighbor is blowing smoke, just making up stuff to try to get out of it. Nothing new.

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