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DeeS1 (Michigan)
Posts: 223
Posted:
If your sidewalks are common areas, how does your associations handle paying for repairs: reserves or operational budget? I've heard arguments on both sides and am wondering what most do.

Against reserves: obviously, sidewalks don't fail all at once and would never need to be replaced at once.
For reserves: it's a fairly large expense for some communities.

So far, our community has been budgeting $1000 operationally each year and making the most pressing repairs. However, it's more expensive to do smaller repairs and it is also hard to convince new board members to spend the $$ each year. I'm wondering if it makes sense to reserve for 5K in repairs every 5 years to get more for our money (volume discount) and still leave some $$ operationally to handle any obvious repairs that may be a liability.
RobW (California)
Posts: 279
Posted:
Our sidewalks and street are reserve components. Reserves are not only for replacement of reserve components, but also for repairs of those components. Some components are never actually replaced in one massive project, but are continually "replaced" as needed.

Examples would be replacing hand rails in a stairwell, trees and shrubs in the landscaping, re-tiling a swimming pool, and so on.

Rob
DanielH1 (California)
Posts: 482
Posted:
Repairs come out of the operation budget for us but replacement comes out of reserves.

Our sidewalks are reserve components, too, but we don't handle them the same as Rob.

Our reserve study says whether the reserve amount is for repair or replacement but almost always for replacement. When the "date" arrives, the money is "freed" from the reserve account to do exactly what the reserve study says. If the Board votes not to use the reserve money for the reserve item, the reserve study is re-jiggered to take into account the delayed or cancelled reserve item.

Rob isn't wrong, though. To me, it is acceptable to use reserve money to extend the life of reserve components and essentially perform the reserve work piecemeal rather than all at once.

One remaining observation is that reserves are meant to pay for expensive and necessary projects that require funds that could not be reasonably raised in a year. Light bulbs are NOT usually listed as reserve components because, although they may last for many years but won't last forever, they are often affordable from the operational budget and don't require the long-term planning that are for reserves.

Admittedly, some HOAs use reserves as a sort of slush fund and raid it for small amounts to fund things that should be operational expenses. But we're not talking about that here: the repairs should extend the life of the reserve component, not just maintain it.
DavidW5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 565
Posted:
Our sidewalks are common property and are included in our reserve study. Our board has set a threshold of $2500 for reserve expenditures. Any repairs amounting to less than that threshold are paid for with operating funds. If and when extensive repairs or replacements need to be done which exceed that amount, they will be paid for from the reserve account.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Dee,

We have it as part of our Reserves. We based the reserve amount on our Association historical expenses and it worked out that we incurred about $6,000 every 5 years for sidewalk repairs.

Tim
ElbyJ
Posts: 29
Posted:
Talk about a timely subject! This is an issue we are just now starting to address in our HOA. We have been established for almost 14 years and no prior board or management agent have thought about to address this subject. As a gated community with a crappy Declaration of Use Restrictions (our CCR), it does address the HOA is responsible for common areas, but fails to address exactly what is a common area. The definition of "common area" aludes to sidewalks, but fails to state if the sidewalks are those at the subdivision's entrance area or throughout the subdivision. We have asked our management agent to run this down for us, but the legal department states they need a full layout of the subdivision so they can see where the dividing lines are located between the owner and HOA. In looking at the drawing for our lot, it appears the dividing line for the homeowner does not include the sidewalks and a portion of the driveway. The curb and roads are already our responsibility. Is this what everyone else is reading in their declarations?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Elby,

It all depends on the legal boundary lines of the lots as described on the deeds.

For my association, the property line of the individual lot stops at the sidewalk edge closest to the property. This places the sidewalks, curbs, roads and traffic islands into the category of common area.

You should be able to go to your county land records office and get a copy of the plat for your development. This is the diagram your management company is looking for. The plat will show each individual lot that is within the property and the associated boundary lines.

Tim
ElbyJ
Posts: 29
Posted:
Tim -- thanks for the input. May I guess that a portion of the driveway may also be included since on my plat the dividing line is straight and doesn't curve around the driveway.

Elby
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Hi Elby:

Usually on driveways the straight line is for the sidewalk portion of the driveway. Even though there is a cut or slant in this area for pulling into the driveway, it is still considered sidewalk area.
ElbyJ
Posts: 29
Posted:
Janet -- thanks great comment. I will pursue. Elby
JeanI (Louisiana)
Posts: 112
Posted:
We are a relatively new development in Louisiana. Our legal documents (restrictions, Bylaws and Articles) are silent as to who owns, maintains and repairs the sidewalks. Our streets are private and only some sections of the development has sidewalks. There is a grassy area between the sidewalk and the street in these residences which h
the homeowner has maintained (cut grass and stakes the tree0. The developer has conveyed some areas in the development to the HOA including streets and buildings but never the sidewalks. There are utility servitudes under the street which the developer still owns and has not been deeded over to the HOA. There are trees on the grassy area between the street and sidewalk which some homeowners maintain but others do not. What is the HOA's obligation regarding the sidewalks and grassy area with trees that abut the street? In the absence of any legal reference to these parcels who would be liable if an injury occurs on the sidewalk?
RobW (California)
Posts: 279
Posted:
I don't have enough information to definitively answer your question, but generally, the owner of the land is responsible for taking reasonable care to keep it safely maintained.

That said, there are some drastic measures being taken by some municipalities due to the poor economy, in which the city requires the homeowner to maintain both the sidewalks and the trees between the sidewalk and the street. I would recommend that you thoroughly research the codes and ordinances in your area, and consult an attorney if you can't get to the bottom of it any other way.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Hi Jean:

Like Rob I have to agree that it is difficult to answer without actually viewing your plats and documents.

I would imagine because you have private streets that pretty much everything will be HOA responsibility including the sidewalks, but that is just a guess from your statements. One idea is for you to possibly check with your local city planning and see what they have on record regarding your subdivision and what the HOA is responsible for maintaining.
ElbyJ
Posts: 29
Posted:
Jean -- not speaking as an expert in this area - but from experience in our subdivision. The island area between the sidewalk and curb is a totally wasted area as most developers will always place grass in this area and then the owner has to find a way to water it without wasting the water. Anyway, we have a very similar situation in our area and we consulted the city for assistance. We were told the grassy island is part of the city's easement since that is where the majority of the utilities are located. However, it is still the homeowner's responsibility to take care fo the grassy island and any trees growing in the island.

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