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RS5 (Arizona)
Posts: 7
Posted:
Our HOA (Arizona) denied our request for an access gate from our backyard to a little used common area (the area abuts the west side of our property and is basically a 15' wide ledge that drops off to a drainage area). The ledge also has a nice gradual slope to the sidewalk that makes it possible to bring a heavy wheel barrel up (we are doing work in our back yard).

The access gate would allow us to reach the west side of our backyard from the sidewalk. Reaching this west side of our property from any other area is nearly impossible because of 2 things: the 2 sides of our property are almost cut off from each other by a retaining wall in the rear of our property (only a small 2 ft. walkway adjoins the 2 sides) AND our house is at a steep elevation from the sidewalk to our west "front" gate that leads to the backyard - so steep that we cannot bring a wheel barrel up. Without this access from the west "side" gate - we are not be able to do any meaningful work on our backyard.

We did some work on the back yard before a block wall was erected. Now, we cannot access our west side back yard with any equipment to make any improvements.

FYI - at least 7 other homes out of 200 have an access gate to the common area that is identical in situation to ours (they all abut a ledge leading to a draining area (called an arroyo in Arizona). After the assoc. board received our request, they changed the Architectural "rules" to disallow any more gates to common areas and basically said all those who already had them were ok. Any advice?

Also - I've included arizona revised statute 42-13402 regarding common area usage definition etc. This relates to the special tax status that HOA's enjoy whereby they only pay $500 per year on all the common area land as long as it is considered common area and every member has access to it and can use it. If the HOA is in violation of this ruling, they lose their special tax status. Are they in violation but denying the gate to the common area?

42-13402

4. All members of the association or residential property owners in the development, their immediate families must have a right to use and enjoy the common areas. This right must be appurtenant to and pass with title to each lot and parcel. The association or corporation may assess fees for particular uses of individual common areas.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
Is this a single family home or condo?

Is your yard split in two, with the retaining wall in-between? If yes, why is the retaining wall considered a common area?
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Per your question: Are they in violation by denying the gate to the common area? ... I would say NO. You can use and enjoy the common area without a gate. You stated there are 200 homes and only 7 have a gate.

You would be foolish to have them to lose the special tax status. Any increase in tax payments would be passed on to yourself and the other homeowners. Depending on the increase amount other homeowners would be looking for who to tar and feather for its demise.
RS5 (Arizona)
Posts: 7
Posted:
Only a small percentage of the homes actually border the arroyo.

According to us, we are denied the ability to "use" the common area to the extent we need to access our property. We object because we feel the decision was made capriciously/arbritrarily - the community is 25 years old with most of the gates to the arroyos as old as the community. Why the sudden change? We feel is is unreasonable - it is now way damages the common area and the common area is meant for the residents. This particular piece of common area that borders our property isn't even usable for anyone but us. We are the only family that has small children and the board members just happen to life on our block and have made our life miserable with every complaint you can think of. We lived around the corner for 5 years (same community) and had no problems. On this block - all **ll breaks loose. My hubby ran for board and was elected - then the board members got a petition together and voted to remove him - on the basis that our remodel took 6 months (not a long time). Then the HOA changed the bylaws to state he/I could not run for the board again for 5 years. There is no more to the story - no inappropriate actions on hubbies part while he was on board - he was only on the board for 6 weeks. The board is like a dictatorship. Same board for many many years. I've gone on too long - it really is a bad situation.
BrianV1 (California)
Posts: 12
Posted:
It doesn't sound like you (or anyone else) is being denied use to that common area. From what you describe, you can access the area from the sidewalk.

Even if this area was determined to "not be a common area" as it is defined under this statute, the HOA would still be under no obligation to approve your gate. This 15ft ledge would just be assessed at a higher tax rate. Seems like a bit like "cutting off your nose to spite your face."

Just out of curiosity, what reason did the board give for not wanting gates to this area?

RS5 (Arizona)
Posts: 7
Posted:
No reason was given - just a "denied" check mark.

We did install an iron fence piece that is removable - it is on hangers. It is not actually a gate but we can at least access what we need to access. It would just be more convenient if it were an actual gate that swings open when needed. The HOA tried to say we have a gate in that the iron fencing is removable and not welded to the block fence - and we simply said all iron fencing is removable - there is no way of welding an iron fence to a concrete block wall. The HOA left it at that and so did we. They realized it was futile to press the point. It really is unnerving to have to come up with clever solutions to circumvent an HOA's arbitrary rules. As I said - no harm comes to anyone by us having access to our own common area as many others also have in our community.

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