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JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
I keep finding some laws in FL that I kinda like … I think because they have so many HOA’s they are trying to eliminate major issues that have arose in the past. The reason I like this idea is why should the homeowner get the rent and yet not pay his HOA dues. This idea makes it fair that the HOA gets their dues and the HO gets balance, because the renter is using the HOA facilities.

Anyone know a definite statute regarding this article:

Law Makes Renters Settle Unpaid HOA fees
http://www.panhandleparade.com/index.php/mbb/article/new_law_makes_renters_pay_hoa_fees/27047/

The only items I have found as of yet regarding this are below and I do not see anything in essence “set in stone” regarding dues (or maybe I am missing something):

720.305 Obligations of members; remedies at law or in equity; levy of fines and suspension of use rights.

(1) Each member and the member’s tenants, guests, and invitees, and each association, are governed by, and must comply with, this chapter, the governing documents of the community, and the rules of the association. Actions at law or in equity, or both, to redress alleged failure or refusal to comply with these provisions may be brought by the association or by any member against:
(a) The association;
(b) A member;
(c) Any director or officer of an association who willfully and knowingly fails to comply with these provisions; and
(d) Any tenants, guests, or invitees occupying a parcel or using the common areas.

(2) If a member is delinquent for more than 90 days in paying a monetary obligation due the association, an association may suspend, until such monetary obligation is paid, the rights of a member or a member’s tenants, guests, or invitees, or both, to use common areas and facilities and may levy reasonable fines of up to $100 per violation, against any member or any tenant, guest, or invitee. A fine may be levied for each day of a continuing violation, with a single notice and opportunity for hearing, except that a fine may not exceed $1,000 in the aggregate unless otherwise provided in the governing documents. A fine of less than $1,000 may not become a lien against a parcel. In any action to recover a fine, the prevailing party is entitled to collect its reasonable attorney’s fees and costs from the nonprevailing party as determined by the court. The provisions regarding the suspension-of-use rights do not apply to the portion of common areas that must be used to provide access to the parcel or utility services provided to the parcel.

DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Janet,

That will be the new HOA law. I am sure that the condos (718) also will contain this.

""""FL Statute 720.3085(8) went into effect on July 1st, 2010. In a nutshell, Home Owner Associations now have the authority collect rent from a tenant occupying a property that is delinquent to the association in any monetary obligation. The association is required to make written demand on the tenant, with a copy to the owner, and may only collect rent to the extent of the unpaid monetary obligation to the association. If the tenant is ordered to make a payment to the association, it counts as rent credit. The tenant pays the remaining balance to the landlord. If the tenant does not pay the HOA, the association may evict the tenant as if the association was the landlord.

JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
I wonder if more states might be looking at adopting something similar. I think you stated before you have properties in FL, so what do you think about this statute?
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Janet,

I absolutely love this new law. Because I am an absentee landlord, the Board of my association has always had an extra vigilance towards myself and my Husband. We have worked on many committees while we lived in Florida, showing the 4 HOA's that we owned in, that not all tenants and their landlords are bad for the association.

And as a landlord and mulitple owner, I pay dues, lots and lots of dues. Some of these payments are higher than when we first started and mostly because of owners who fail to make their payments to the HOA. Now myself and all of the other good owners are paying dues for the slackers and forclosures who are not paying. Not all of those are slackers but there is a portion of these people who say that they won't pay because the HOAs are not going after everyone.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Donna ... Thank you!!!

As I said this idea intrigued me as it appears fair especially for HOA's who have any rentals. Maybe some of us in other states can let our legislators know to possibly consider something similar.
LuaneH (Georgia)
Posts: 15
Posted:
Janet,

Not to get off topic, but can you tell me if FL HOA/POA law is like GA in that associations formed prior to the law enactment must opt in to be covered?

Thanks.
EdC5 (Florida)
Posts: 117
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LuaneH on 01/29/2011 6:27 AM
Janet,

Not to get off topic, but can you tell me if FL HOA/POA law is like GA in that associations formed prior to the law enactment must opt in to be covered?

Thanks.

According to my reading of the statute, it's not 'opt in'.

Edward J Cooke, CMCA, LCAM
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Hi Luane:

EdC5 is from Florida and I am sure knows a lot more about their statutes than myself.

The reason I am reading and like many FL statutes is because they tend to be less ambiguous than many other states. I too have not seen any opt-in options when reading.

I would like to see about getting some ambiguous items in my state statutes fixed, to better protect the HOA’s. Instead of just approaching with a problem, I like to have options for how to repair the problem.
FionaC (California)
Posts: 212
Posted:
Here in California, it's the law and yes, it's being done. Renters can not have adverse action taken ( eviction ) against them for adhering to the law and the request of the HOA.

What we have found, by the time the HOA has gone this far, the homeowner is losing has lost or is dealing with active foreclosure. SO dues might slightly be caught up, but rarely has the amount paid back via renter paid off the back dues..

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