RobW (California)
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Posts: 279
Posted:
Our HOA just paid our final common-area electric bill for 2010: a total of $127,000 for the year.
As the chair of our newly-formed energy committee, I contacted PG&E (our local electrical utility) to ask if they had any suggestions for cutting this bill down. The rep looked at our bill and exclaimed that we are paying residential rates, when we should be paying commercial rates. Our HOA has 177 townhouse and condo units, each with its own residential meter. Our HOA, on the other hand, owns the land, the pool building, the recreation center, a visitors parking garage, tennis courts, fountains, landscaping, street lights, garages (all with lights), an automatic front gate, fire alarms, etc., and the corporation itself has a separate utilities account with PG&E, with 14 separate meters for all of the above.
I spent an hour on the phone with PG&E rep, who calculated what our HOA common-area total for the year would have been, had we paid commercial rates, and guess what? $64,000! He said he would send a report to our management company that outlines all of this, and as you can imagine, I was wild with joy!
Well, today we received the report, and there was nothing at all in it about what our rates would be if we switched to commercial from residential. Instead, it was a report for each of the 14 meters, showing a rate comparison between the residential rate we currently pay, and the other residential rates we might choose from. Everybody get this? Where did the $64,000 go?
I called PG&E today, and was told that we don't qualify for commercial rates, because we're a residential community. I pointed out that the first rep was really excited about how much money we could save, spent an hour doing all of the calculations to prove it, promised a report, and then sent a completely different report.
They are obviously trying to get out of cutting our common-area electric bill, by wriggling out of classifying us commercial.
My question for all of you: Have any of your HOA's been successful in establishing a commercial account for common area utilities, and if so, how did it work out for you?
Thanks,
Rob
As the chair of our newly-formed energy committee, I contacted PG&E (our local electrical utility) to ask if they had any suggestions for cutting this bill down. The rep looked at our bill and exclaimed that we are paying residential rates, when we should be paying commercial rates. Our HOA has 177 townhouse and condo units, each with its own residential meter. Our HOA, on the other hand, owns the land, the pool building, the recreation center, a visitors parking garage, tennis courts, fountains, landscaping, street lights, garages (all with lights), an automatic front gate, fire alarms, etc., and the corporation itself has a separate utilities account with PG&E, with 14 separate meters for all of the above.
I spent an hour on the phone with PG&E rep, who calculated what our HOA common-area total for the year would have been, had we paid commercial rates, and guess what? $64,000! He said he would send a report to our management company that outlines all of this, and as you can imagine, I was wild with joy!
Well, today we received the report, and there was nothing at all in it about what our rates would be if we switched to commercial from residential. Instead, it was a report for each of the 14 meters, showing a rate comparison between the residential rate we currently pay, and the other residential rates we might choose from. Everybody get this? Where did the $64,000 go?
I called PG&E today, and was told that we don't qualify for commercial rates, because we're a residential community. I pointed out that the first rep was really excited about how much money we could save, spent an hour doing all of the calculations to prove it, promised a report, and then sent a completely different report.
They are obviously trying to get out of cutting our common-area electric bill, by wriggling out of classifying us commercial.
My question for all of you: Have any of your HOA's been successful in establishing a commercial account for common area utilities, and if so, how did it work out for you?
Thanks,
Rob